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This conduct is such a disappointment. These scientists are supposed to be some of the greatest people in their fields, working in the most desired jobs, in a

This conduct is such a disappointment. These scientists are supposed to be some of the greatest people in their fields, working in the most desired jobs, in a unique beautiful place which costs normal people the price of a car to even visit briefly. And what do they do with their special privileged time in this amazing place? Sexually harass women. Throw them in the goddamn frozen ocean.

neongodzilla 3y ago
It's almost like it's a pervasive issue that can be found in just about every group. It's far more surprising when sexual harassment DOESN'T occur.
dharmab 3y ago
Not everyone at McMurdo is a research scientist. Many are contractors maintaining and supporting the base or constructing new equipment.
- foobarbecue 3y ago
  Not just many -- the majority. And compared to the beakers (scientists like me) the difference in the rules the contractors are subject to and the way those rules are enforced is stark.
juanani 3y ago
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jadbox 3y ago
I have seen many great people, with intellect far greater than mine, become a complete embarrassment to themselves and their employer because of alcohol. I once worked with one fellow for a decade who was an an absolute gem in the office and they rarely drank, but would turn consistently turn into an obnoxious gremlin the moment they had more than two beers. I can't say this enough: alcohol is a poison to your health and soul.
- Brian_K_White 3y ago
  Abolition and puritanism have already been tried and do not produce a better result. Some of the worst abuses happen in the driest places, and this very article including the women themselves said the problem of attacking women and the problems from alcohol were two different problems. The problem with people abusing other people is people abusing other people. You feeling free to express this judgemental attitude about anyone else drinking or doing anything that isn't harming anyone else (you only have an assertion that it leads to harm, and not even the unavoidable form like with drunk driving), is an example of people abusing other people not unlike the rapist. The alcohol problem they are trying to address is only one of fine tuning, a gentle steering adjustment that hardly affects access to alcohol at all.
sproketboy 3y ago
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millzlane 3y ago
Nah according to the article they rape women we just don't call it that. I would joke in jest about what we should do with them before we throw them in. But since getting banned from Reddit for joking about choking a rabid dog. I realize it may crass and un-funny to a lot of folks. But the word chum, comes to mind.
lm28469 3y ago
> These scientists are supposed to be some of the greatest people in their fields Can't be further from the truth. My gf was in academia, it's full of predators, their hierarchical system almost pushes for it if you ask me. Young aspiring phd student attend international science conference full of 40+ incels that promise her the world type of deal. Their lifestyle also select for weird type of personalities, very often asocial/sociopath, a lot of "dreamers" leave the field quite early when they notice the trend Disgusting people are everywhere, science is a field that allows a few people to control your future like almost no other fields, most specialities are very small worlds in which everything works on personal recommendation basis, word of mouth, &c. In the end you have the perfect combination of power (of the hierarchy), admiration (of aspirational researchers), "sacrifice are needed" mentality, these places are borderline cult like sometimes
ben7799 3y ago
It's also dark for 6 months there.. staying over the winter through that is not easy. They're mostly locked inside all winter having to figure out how to not go stir crazy.
- suprjami 3y ago
  It's not like that fact is hidden or unexpected. These people knowingly took jobs there. They almost certainly were on a long waiting list with many other candidates who also wanted the job. Regardless, it doesn't matter how "stir crazy" one is going from being stuck indoors, the appropriate response is never to rape women.
l0b0 3y ago
> These scientists Does it say that it's the scientists doing this? From https://www.usap.gov/jobsandopportunities/ https://www.usap.gov/jobsandopportunities/: > The U.S. Antarctic Program deploys roughly 3,000 people to Antarctica every year, mostly during the austral summer from October through February. These participants include: scientists who conduct research; support staff who operate and maintain the U.S. research stations and vessels; members of the military and other federal agencies; artists and writers who use art to broaden public awareness of Antarctica; and members of the media who report on Antarctic science. Other than that, yes, make sure due process is followed and offenders are punished.
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neongodzilla 3y ago

It's almost like it's a pervasive issue that can be found in just about every group. It's far more surprising when sexual harassment DOESN'T occur.

dharmab 3y ago

Not everyone at McMurdo is a research scientist. Many are contractors maintaining and supporting the base or constructing new equipment.

foobarbecue 3y ago
Not just many -- the majority. And compared to the beakers (scientists like me) the difference in the rules the contractors are subject to and the way those rules are enforced is stark.

juanani 3y ago

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jadbox 3y ago

I have seen many great people, with intellect far greater than mine, become a complete embarrassment to themselves and their employer because of alcohol. I once worked with one fellow for a decade who was an an absolute gem in the office and they rarely drank, but would turn consistently turn into an obnoxious gremlin the moment they had more than two beers. I can't say this enough: alcohol is a poison to your health and soul.

Brian_K_White 3y ago
Abolition and puritanism have already been tried and do not produce a better result. Some of the worst abuses happen in the driest places, and this very article including the women themselves said the problem of attacking women and the problems from alcohol were two different problems. The problem with people abusing other people is people abusing other people. You feeling free to express this judgemental attitude about anyone else drinking or doing anything that isn't harming anyone else (you only have an assertion that it leads to harm, and not even the unavoidable form like with drunk driving), is an example of people abusing other people not unlike the rapist. The alcohol problem they are trying to address is only one of fine tuning, a gentle steering adjustment that hardly affects access to alcohol at all.

sproketboy 3y ago

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millzlane 3y ago

Nah according to the article they rape women we just don't call it that. I would joke in jest about what we should do with them before we throw them in. But since getting banned from Reddit for joking about choking a rabid dog. I realize it may crass and un-funny to a lot of folks. But the word chum, comes to mind.

lm28469 3y ago

> These scientists are supposed to be some of the greatest people in their fields Can't be further from the truth. My gf was in academia, it's full of predators, their hierarchical system almost pushes for it if you ask me. Young aspiring phd student attend international science conference full of 40+ incels that promise her the world type of deal. Their lifestyle also select for weird type of personalities, very often asocial/sociopath, a lot of "dreamers" leave the field quite early when they notice the trend Disgusting people are everywhere, science is a field that allows a few people to control your future like almost no other fields, most specialities are very small worlds in which everything works on personal recommendation basis, word of mouth, &c. In the end you have the perfect combination of power (of the hierarchy), admiration (of aspirational researchers), "sacrifice are needed" mentality, these places are borderline cult like sometimes

ben7799 3y ago

It's also dark for 6 months there.. staying over the winter through that is not easy. They're mostly locked inside all winter having to figure out how to not go stir crazy.

suprjami 3y ago
It's not like that fact is hidden or unexpected. These people knowingly took jobs there. They almost certainly were on a long waiting list with many other candidates who also wanted the job. Regardless, it doesn't matter how "stir crazy" one is going from being stuck indoors, the appropriate response is never to rape women.

l0b0 3y ago

> These scientists Does it say that it's the scientists doing this? From https://www.usap.gov/jobsandopportunities/ https://www.usap.gov/jobsandopportunities/: > The U.S. Antarctic Program deploys roughly 3,000 people to Antarctica every year, mostly during the austral summer from October through February. These participants include: scientists who conduct research; support staff who operate and maintain the U.S. research stations and vessels; members of the military and other federal agencies; artists and writers who use art to broaden public awareness of Antarctica; and members of the media who report on Antarctic science. Other than that, yes, make sure due process is followed and offenders are punished.

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