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...basically any physician? Anyway, a two minute Google search can even find some US-friendly related material (but probably someone could be able to say that

...basically any physician? Anyway, a two minute Google search can even find some US-friendly related material (but probably someone could be able to say that Harvard is a vegan-soviet-wokist psyop, one could never know...) https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/disease-prevention/cardiovascular-disease/preventing-cvd/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/disease-prevent... "The best diet for preventing heart disease is one that is full of fruits and vegetables, whole grains, nuts, fish, poultry, and vegetable oils; includes alcohol in moderation, if at all; and goes easy on red and processed meats, refined carbohydrates, foods and beverages with added sugar, sodium, and foods with trans fat." See also https://web.archive.org/web/20131207154611/http://www.cnpp.usda.gov/Publications/DietaryGuidelines/2000/2000DGBrochureFabulousFruits.pdf https://web.archive.org/web/20131207154611/http://www.cnpp.u...

arijun 3y ago
1. That is not a vegan diet 2. That claims to prevent, not reverse the disease.
- myshpa 3y ago
  https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37697562 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37697562
hattmall 3y ago
It's not even vegetarian much less vegan.
ffgjgf1 3y ago
> preventing The question was about evidence which would show that it could reverse heart disease not prevent it. IMHO that’s an extremely important distinction.
- myshpa 3y ago
  > The question was about evidence which would show that it could reverse heart disease not prevent it. It's under the video in the list of sources :) Ellis FR, Sanders TA. Angina and vegan diet. Am Heart J. 1977 Jun;93(6):803-5 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S000287037780080X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00028... Four patients were placed on a vegan diet in 1977. Three of them adhered to the diet and experienced a reversal of the disease (an improvement in their symptoms), while one patient saw improvement but later switched back to a regular diet, resulting in a return of his symptoms. Esselstyn CB Jr, Gendy G, Doyle J, Golubic M, Roizen MF. A way to reverse CAD? J Fam Pract. 2014 Jul;63(7):356-364b https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25198208/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25198208/ In a study involving 198 patients with cardiovascular disease, 89% adhered to a plant-based diet, eliminating dairy, fish, and meat while adding oil. These adherent patients experienced only one recurrent cardiac event (a stroke), resulting in a low recurrence rate of 0.6%. In contrast, 62% of nonadherent participants experienced adverse events. This suggests that intensive counseling on plant-based nutrition can be successful in reducing cardiac events and warrants further testing in broader populations to address the cardiovascular disease epidemic.

arijun 3y ago

1. That is not a vegan diet 2. That claims to prevent, not reverse the disease.

myshpa 3y ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37697562 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37697562

hattmall 3y ago

It's not even vegetarian much less vegan.

ffgjgf1 3y ago

> preventing The question was about evidence which would show that it could reverse heart disease not prevent it. IMHO that’s an extremely important distinction.

myshpa 3y ago
> The question was about evidence which would show that it could reverse heart disease not prevent it. It's under the video in the list of sources :) Ellis FR, Sanders TA. Angina and vegan diet. Am Heart J. 1977 Jun;93(6):803-5 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S000287037780080X https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00028... Four patients were placed on a vegan diet in 1977. Three of them adhered to the diet and experienced a reversal of the disease (an improvement in their symptoms), while one patient saw improvement but later switched back to a regular diet, resulting in a return of his symptoms. Esselstyn CB Jr, Gendy G, Doyle J, Golubic M, Roizen MF. A way to reverse CAD? J Fam Pract. 2014 Jul;63(7):356-364b https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25198208/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25198208/ In a study involving 198 patients with cardiovascular disease, 89% adhered to a plant-based diet, eliminating dairy, fish, and meat while adding oil. These adherent patients experienced only one recurrent cardiac event (a stroke), resulting in a low recurrence rate of 0.6%. In contrast, 62% of nonadherent participants experienced adverse events. This suggests that intensive counseling on plant-based nutrition can be successful in reducing cardiac events and warrants further testing in broader populations to address the cardiovascular disease epidemic.