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> Of course, there are aspects of exploitation, surveillance and manipulation. But are they really more essential to the experience of internet technology t
by nonrandomstring 3y ago
> Of course, there are aspects of exploitation, surveillance and
manipulation. But are they really more essential to the experience
of internet technology than the huge possibilities that they have
opened up?
A great question. Unfortunately today, I think they are.
What I see as the principle difference between the Zeitgeist of 1945
and the spirit of 2023 is our relation to struggle.
By '45 we'd probably realised that the war had tipped toward Allied
victory. From then until perhaps the 1970s we were possessed of a mind
that "Things are worth fighting for", and that science and technology
are a struggle "towards good". We had not yet processed Auschwitz,
Dachau and Belsen.
Cold-war notwithstanding, not only was the wonder of science on a
heady incline, the fruits were magnificent, benevolent and cheaply
available to all, from the highway to the boardroom to the kitchen.
There's the "dream". Not only were we the benefactors of technology,
but we were in control of it.
Today I find I must agree with David Graeber and Peter Thiel, that
Francis Fukuyama's conceit of the "End of History" has seeped
infectiously into the Western mind and extinguished optimism.
One of the things we must urgently fight - and it is as "worth
fighting for" as ever - is the re-emergence tyrannical abuse through
technology, and therefore to keep it in balance as a beneficent force.
Looking through these pages I'd say that sadly most of us, perhaps
numbed by convenience and complacency, have lost the will for that
fight.
- thr_qst 3y agoOn the contrary, they knew exactly what the concentration camps were. It's is us today that have no idea. Ask anyone in the west how many people died in the holocaust and they will tell you 6 million. Half the number. We don't count the other half and celebrate the people who killed Russians and Poles: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/09/25/lapr-s25.html https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2023/09/25/lapr-s25.html
- gregw2 3y agoMy grandfather, who devoted his life to nonprofit work, liberated concentrations camps firsthand as a US Army officer, and observed in his later years how common it was for people to remember the six million Jews who died but forget the six million Poles. (The crime of antisemitic genocide is very very great, but if you doubt the Polish suffering, recall that the cry for “Leibensraum” was not purely or even primarily about the Jews, but it was undertaken with great military force, right?) I have had a hard time independently verifying the Polish numbers to even share them with others so I agree the west ignorance on this runs deep.
- onetokeoverthe 3y ago[dead]