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Judging from the uptick in athlete deaths the last few years, I wouldn't say players are doing too well with whatever they're doing. Here is a Wikipedia page w

Judging from the uptick in athlete deaths the last few years, I wouldn't say players are doing too well with whatever they're doing. Here is a Wikipedia page with soccer players that died on the field. 2021 was a rough year which makes you think either a few deaths from what would have happened in 2020 ended up moving into 2021, or covid was really bad for everyone, even athletes. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_football_players_who_died_during_their_careers https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_football...

XorNot 3y ago
Not unreasonable that this mechanism normally disables to prevent problems though. The point of research like this would be to restore normal function after heart injury.
waihtis 3y ago
The vaccine had a detrimental effect on the heart health of especially young males: https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-updates-evidence-on-rare-heart-condition-after-covid-vaccination/ https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-updates-evide...
- graeme 3y ago
  The 2021 deaths began in January, before the vaccine was widely rolled out to young people. Not to minimize vaccine myocarditis, but it is myopic to focus on that and not the extremely contagious disease known to cause heart trouble.
  - jansan 3y ago
    >The 2021 deaths began in January Interesting claim, can you back that up with data?
    - runako 3y ago
      The list you posted has data supporting this.
- djmips 3y ago
  14 died in 2016 - I guess from vaccine right?
- dralley 3y ago
  The virus itself had a strong detrimental effect on the heart health of especially young males. Even if you take as given that the vaccine had harmful effects, it's dishonest to single it out without comparison to the impact of getting full fledged COVID.
jmcgough 3y ago
What uptick? Doesn't look any worse than 2010 or 2013. It's likely within a standard deviation for the last decade or two.
- cmcaleer 3y ago
  2021 was a particularly bad year (after a 'miracle' year in 2020), but the 3 year rolling average of 2018-2021, 2019-2022, or 2020-2023 is probably within an SD of any other rolling average since these types of stories got widely reported by the internet rather than being a local tragedy.
cmcaleer 3y ago
A long-term break from extended stress and athleticism, followed by a return to extreme athleticism, which resulted in a single particularly bad year (2021 - 20 deaths)? Notably there are fewer deaths in 2022 (8) than 2019 (10) 2018 (9), and 2017 (10). 2023 looks to be in keeping with that trend. It looks far more like 2021 was a single outlier year with reasonable explanations than an 'uptick', which implies an ongoing trend, which the data you're showing simply doesn't show. Another factor could be that those who had congenital heart conditions who would have died in normal play in 2020 (2) are among those who died in 2021.
303uru 3y ago
Data shows no such uptick across sports. I think your mistaking a reporting bias or your own bias towards such stories as data.

XorNot 3y ago

Not unreasonable that this mechanism normally disables to prevent problems though. The point of research like this would be to restore normal function after heart injury.

waihtis 3y ago

The vaccine had a detrimental effect on the heart health of especially young males: https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-updates-evidence-on-rare-heart-condition-after-covid-vaccination/ https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/new-study-updates-evide...

graeme 3y ago
The 2021 deaths began in January, before the vaccine was widely rolled out to young people. Not to minimize vaccine myocarditis, but it is myopic to focus on that and not the extremely contagious disease known to cause heart trouble.
- jansan 3y ago
  >The 2021 deaths began in January Interesting claim, can you back that up with data?
  - runako 3y ago
    The list you posted has data supporting this.
djmips 3y ago
14 died in 2016 - I guess from vaccine right?
dralley 3y ago
The virus itself had a strong detrimental effect on the heart health of especially young males. Even if you take as given that the vaccine had harmful effects, it's dishonest to single it out without comparison to the impact of getting full fledged COVID.

jmcgough 3y ago

What uptick? Doesn't look any worse than 2010 or 2013. It's likely within a standard deviation for the last decade or two.

cmcaleer 3y ago
2021 was a particularly bad year (after a 'miracle' year in 2020), but the 3 year rolling average of 2018-2021, 2019-2022, or 2020-2023 is probably within an SD of any other rolling average since these types of stories got widely reported by the internet rather than being a local tragedy.

cmcaleer 3y ago

A long-term break from extended stress and athleticism, followed by a return to extreme athleticism, which resulted in a single particularly bad year (2021 - 20 deaths)? Notably there are fewer deaths in 2022 (8) than 2019 (10) 2018 (9), and 2017 (10). 2023 looks to be in keeping with that trend. It looks far more like 2021 was a single outlier year with reasonable explanations than an 'uptick', which implies an ongoing trend, which the data you're showing simply doesn't show. Another factor could be that those who had congenital heart conditions who would have died in normal play in 2020 (2) are among those who died in 2021.

303uru 3y ago

Data shows no such uptick across sports. I think your mistaking a reporting bias or your own bias towards such stories as data.