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Sure, one step after another. Can we agree to stop raising animals >specifically< for killing and consumption? Subsequently, we can tackle the problem of acci

• marion-brother 3y ago
  You can pry my steak and chicken out of my cold dead hands. No, we definitely cannot all agree to stop raising food.
• Turing_Machine 3y ago
  > Can we agree to stop raising animals >specifically< for killing and consumption? No. "Let's all do exactly what I want" isn't an "agreement", or a "compromise" or anything remotely related.
• eadmund 3y ago
  > Can we agree to stop raising animals >specifically< for killing and consumption? No, because we omnivores enjoy eating animals, and there are not enough which die of natural causes to go around, and many natural causes make the meat unsafe to eat. This is controversial, but I feel that eating animals is fundamental to being human and that to eat only plants is less than human — perhaps paradoxically, like an animal. I know many, many people disagree, but it’s how I feel, and no amount of rational argument will change that.
  • mfru 3y ago
    if you are not convinced by rational arguments it kinda is useless to discuss this topic anyways, then.
• metapills 3y ago
  If I consume one whole grass fed cow a year I am only taking a single sentient life. How many sentient lives are you ending each year through your plant diet?
  • mfru 3y ago
    Crop fields do indeed disrupt the habitats of wild animals, and wild animals are also killed when harvesting plants. However, this point makes the case for a plant-based diet and not against it, since many more plants are required to produce a measure of animal flesh for food (often as high as 12:1) than are required to produce an equal measure of plants for food (which is obviously 1:1). Because of this, a plant-based diet causes less suffering and death than one that includes animals. https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/vegans-kill-animals-too https://yourveganfallacyis.com/en/vegans-kill-animals-too