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The answer is nuanced. It can run workloads somewhat faster and cooler than Pi 4 without active cooling. But it also can't reach close to its peak performance
by mlyle 3y ago
The answer is nuanced. It can run workloads somewhat faster and cooler than Pi 4 without active cooling. But it also can't reach close to its peak performance without active cooling.
- iamtedd 3y agoYour answer is more direct and uses fewer words. Can you help them fix their product page?
- mlyle 3y agoProbably not ;) The actual info I'd rely upon at this point: https://www.phoronix.com/benchmark/result/raspberry-pi-5-cooling-benchmarks/result-1.svgz https://www.phoronix.com/benchmark/result/raspberry-pi-5-coo... pi5 with active cooler is about 1.2-1.5x faster than pi5 without cooler for most workloads that care than without. Pi5 with active cooler is about 2-2.5x faster than Pi4. So Pi5 without cooler is probably about 1.5x faster than pi4, depending upon workload. (And more than this for quick bursts where thermal mass wins).
- darkclouds 3y agoAnd if you dont have a heatsink and fan of sorts just use alternativing fingers on the cpu, they can still absorb about 10-15 DegC off the cpu temp and thats overclocking a 3b in the 1.35Ghz range. Surprisingly robust. Sadly cant get it to idle below .6Ghz yet, that needs more work. But it makes wonder how much more phone manufacturers could squeeze out of their phones, although Apple are definately overclocking the 15.
- nsteel 3y agoShould we get Intel and AMD to clarify their product pages at the same time?
- noizejoy 3y agoHaha - and while we’re at it, might as well start putting labels on Apple’s performance graph slides :-)
- hgomersall 3y agoDoes that mean for the same load the power requirements of the pi5 are lower than the pi4?
- mlyle 3y agoYes, that's what they directly claim. Phoronix's measurements seem to (indirectly) bear this out. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37686214 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37686214 "The combination of a newer core, a higher clock speed, and a smaller process geometry yields a much faster Raspberry Pi, and one that consumes much less power for a given workload."