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I was going to ask if it was even safe to keep those batteries in device long term, but the answer is already out: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3768441

I was going to ask if it was even safe to keep those batteries in device long term, but the answer is already out: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37684415 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37684415 Those warning stickers asking you to remove the batteries when the device won't be used for a long time were not just decorative.

Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago
Isn't it impossible to do on various smartphones?
- saurik 3y ago
  It was a while ago that I watched this video--and I don't want to watch it again right now--but I think this issue was more of a defect in the manufacturing of these batteries; but, since it didn't seem to matter until the phones were being stored for long periods of time--this person maintains a giant collection for some kind of testing purpose--it seems relevant here as these weren't uncommon phones or anything. https://youtu.be/OfM0GqsIB6c https://youtu.be/OfM0GqsIB6c
  - makeitdouble 3y ago
    Anecdotally I've had batteries expanded in two Apple devices (disclaimer: I don't keep many other devices around). The video makes a case for Samsung devices being prone to it in near ideal conditions, but normal people tend to take a lot less care, use them in rougher environments as well and stressing things a lot more, especially as these devices are not used 3 weeks for testing and stored away as reviewers would do. I think we should expect most of our devices to potentially have the issue at some point, whatever the maker. Even on the safer devices, there must be a point where it just happens.
- makeitdouble 3y ago
  Overwhelmingly Yes, and perhaps no. Yes it's crazy hard to do it non-destructively for many smartphones as a normal user. The same way it's just hell to replace the batteries sometimes (still remember the 52 steps process for the previous gen iPad pros). No in that normal users should also not store a trove of past smartphones (or any electronic device) if they can't remove the battery, so the only people that should have this problem are iFixit grade tinkerers, for whom 50+ steps of disassembly should be fine. That could be another angle on "why should I care about battery accessibility in my phone" ?

Fire-Dragon-DoL 3y ago

Isn't it impossible to do on various smartphones?

saurik 3y ago
It was a while ago that I watched this video--and I don't want to watch it again right now--but I think this issue was more of a defect in the manufacturing of these batteries; but, since it didn't seem to matter until the phones were being stored for long periods of time--this person maintains a giant collection for some kind of testing purpose--it seems relevant here as these weren't uncommon phones or anything. https://youtu.be/OfM0GqsIB6c https://youtu.be/OfM0GqsIB6c
- makeitdouble 3y ago
  Anecdotally I've had batteries expanded in two Apple devices (disclaimer: I don't keep many other devices around). The video makes a case for Samsung devices being prone to it in near ideal conditions, but normal people tend to take a lot less care, use them in rougher environments as well and stressing things a lot more, especially as these devices are not used 3 weeks for testing and stored away as reviewers would do. I think we should expect most of our devices to potentially have the issue at some point, whatever the maker. Even on the safer devices, there must be a point where it just happens.
makeitdouble 3y ago
Overwhelmingly Yes, and perhaps no. Yes it's crazy hard to do it non-destructively for many smartphones as a normal user. The same way it's just hell to replace the batteries sometimes (still remember the 52 steps process for the previous gen iPad pros). No in that normal users should also not store a trove of past smartphones (or any electronic device) if they can't remove the battery, so the only people that should have this problem are iFixit grade tinkerers, for whom 50+ steps of disassembly should be fine. That could be another angle on "why should I care about battery accessibility in my phone" ?