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You cannot possibly put HTML5, mostly three.js at this time (thank you Mr Doob, you rock Sir), at the same level as what Flash is able to do on a browser or wha

by novalis 15y ago

You cannot possibly put HTML5, mostly three.js at this time (thank you Mr Doob, you rock Sir), at the same level as what Flash is able to do on a browser or what Flex is able to do on mobile. It is also not supported in some present browsers. Neither targets "social gaming" at all. Adobe is doing HD specs at 60 fps, full GPU render support. What other cross plat does this in the browser at this point and what other cross plat that does this aims at social game developers even? HTML 5 does a better job at what ? 8 bit looking socket based casual games and full 3D are not the same thing. IE 10 is lining up to miss on browser level AAA looking games and iOS prefers to determine the "future" where it is able to vote, none of this brings hardcore gamers in no matter how anyone may want to present it. Look at the triple A titles that sell, look at what Abode is doing, then look at what three.js does, does it look like social gaming to you ? Let's be realistic and not just play along to a party line. In the process lets also not build up casual gaming to be something that it is not, some sort of made up standard for what gaming should be just because it is of interest to push for specific tech at a specific point in time. It is getting old already.

protomyth 15y ago
I actually do not think HTML5 is a replacement for Flash (thus my second paragraph). Regardless of the utility and capability of Flash, it is no longer a universal platform. Since it is losing market share (browser with flash / browsers without), I would assume people in the social gaming area are starting to look at other platforms with HTML5 having the largest market share.
- novalis 15y ago
  "...it is no longer a universal platform." Was it ever ? Media diffusion is not something anyone should disregard depending on brand. Present penetration numbers are still impressive unless you have other data. That creates a blind spot in the rear view mirror for someone wanting to isolate social gaming in a area where only one technology is enough, sometimes even the only one that is "acceptable". Let us see how people like Mr Doob push javascript and the progress that comes in adopting easier render pipelines, it is promissing at this point. maybe everyone is going to want to have the next V8. Maybe webkit, html5 and canvas3D are going to have to get along in the end because social gaming is not part of a area but it exists in a place with some irregular border lines. Maybe some big engine comes and saves the day.
  - protomyth 15y ago
    "...it is no longer a universal platform." Was it ever ? When the PC had 99%+ of the web browsing traffic, it pretty much was as close as anyone has got to a universal platform.
moonchrome 15y ago
>What other cross plat does this in the browser Unity, and it does a far better job at it.
- novalis 15y ago
  You do post from Unity to Flash now and starting a game with Flash and making the Unity plugin a must download for the rest of the game is the sort of thing that Adobe wants to secure a profit in. Unity posts to Flash. Sure, why not. Unity is a great tool but Flash is better at end file size, user penetration and web site integration.

by novalis 15y ago

protomyth 15y ago

I actually do not think HTML5 is a replacement for Flash (thus my second paragraph). Regardless of the utility and capability of Flash, it is no longer a universal platform. Since it is losing market share (browser with flash / browsers without), I would assume people in the social gaming area are starting to look at other platforms with HTML5 having the largest market share.

novalis 15y ago
"...it is no longer a universal platform." Was it ever ? Media diffusion is not something anyone should disregard depending on brand. Present penetration numbers are still impressive unless you have other data. That creates a blind spot in the rear view mirror for someone wanting to isolate social gaming in a area where only one technology is enough, sometimes even the only one that is "acceptable". Let us see how people like Mr Doob push javascript and the progress that comes in adopting easier render pipelines, it is promissing at this point. maybe everyone is going to want to have the next V8. Maybe webkit, html5 and canvas3D are going to have to get along in the end because social gaming is not part of a area but it exists in a place with some irregular border lines. Maybe some big engine comes and saves the day.
- protomyth 15y ago
  "...it is no longer a universal platform." Was it ever ? When the PC had 99%+ of the web browsing traffic, it pretty much was as close as anyone has got to a universal platform.

moonchrome 15y ago

>What other cross plat does this in the browser Unity, and it does a far better job at it.

novalis 15y ago
You do post from Unity to Flash now and starting a game with Flash and making the Unity plugin a must download for the rest of the game is the sort of thing that Adobe wants to secure a profit in. Unity posts to Flash. Sure, why not. Unity is a great tool but Flash is better at end file size, user penetration and web site integration.