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> "If you know how to set your Wi-Fi, you know how to switch your search," Cue said. I’m trying to put my finger on why this claim feels so disingenuous. I thi

> "If you know how to set your Wi-Fi, you know how to switch your search," Cue said. I’m trying to put my finger on why this claim feels so disingenuous. I think it’s because it’s a skill you are forced to learn in order to use the service (WiFi). And that WiFi is such a fundamental base operating aspect of your phone and without WiFi your phone will just straight up not work in some circumstances, but with the default search engine it will of course work, just in a different way than if you changed the search engine. In other words, people have to learn how to work the settings -> WiFi part of the phone to get it to even operate. They don’t have to learn settings -> Safari to use the search engine. So it’s a straight up flat out lie for the vast majority of iPhone users. I think it would be much more directly comparable if you had to select your default search engine in settings every time you wanted to use internet at a different location and not spend extra money (data) and without doing that you just wouldn’t have functioning search capabilities on your phone. Then I think it would be ok to make this equivalency and have it be even remotely accurate. By the way, I’m not really commenting on the merits of the article or within larger, just wanted to point out how much of a load of crap this particular sentence is. Simply because it’s the same +- amount of clicks away in the UI does not make it an equivalent UX feature

paholg 3y ago
I recently switched my default search engine to give Kagi a try. It was a lot less straightforward than I expected. You can't add a new search engine anywhere in firefox settings; you have to go to the search website, then right click the URL, and the menu includes an option to add the search. Then you can go back to settings and set it as default.
- SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
  I did as well (maybe from the same HN announcement you saw a few days ago). The problem with Kagi is that it’s not on the “approved list”. Had it been Bing or one of the other 4 providers that have special treatment it would have been much faster. Of course, the fact that special treatment list exists and there’s no easy eject for providers not on that list is another problem
paxys 3y ago
If Wi-Fi automatically worked the moment you took the phone out of the box then exactly nobody would know how to change it. Here's a closer analogy – how many people can successfully go into their phones and change the cell network they are connected to?

paholg 3y ago

I recently switched my default search engine to give Kagi a try. It was a lot less straightforward than I expected. You can't add a new search engine anywhere in firefox settings; you have to go to the search website, then right click the URL, and the menu includes an option to add the search. Then you can go back to settings and set it as default.

SOLAR_FIELDS 3y ago
I did as well (maybe from the same HN announcement you saw a few days ago). The problem with Kagi is that it’s not on the “approved list”. Had it been Bing or one of the other 4 providers that have special treatment it would have been much faster. Of course, the fact that special treatment list exists and there’s no easy eject for providers not on that list is another problem

paxys 3y ago

If Wi-Fi automatically worked the moment you took the phone out of the box then exactly nobody would know how to change it. Here's a closer analogy – how many people can successfully go into their phones and change the cell network they are connected to?