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I've never had lunch with someone who was sitting there pointing their phone camera at me.

by jacobsenscott 3y ago

amethyst 3y ago
With modern wide angle lenses, it doesn't even need to be pointed directly at you to get you completely in the frame.
- pests 3y ago
  I don't know. Its weird. Kind of like how people have the "someone's staring at you" sense. > The biological phenomenon is known as “gaze detection” or “gaze perception.” Neurological studies have found that the brain cells that initiate this response are very precise. If someone turns their gaze off of you by turning just a few degrees to their left or right, that eerie feeling quickly fades. I 100% beleive we also do this with smartphones. You can 100% detect when a smartphone is looking at you or just being held in your direction. It might not be proven scientifically yet but I know this in my soul. Similar to our ability to determine what someone else is looking at. We can watch someone's purpils move, and then immediately look at the exact area they looked at.
  - eep_social 3y ago
    Also, gaze detection extends beyond humans [1]. Citation mentions dogs, birds, and reptiles having some degree of it. In general, attention detection via gaze or body language would be an evolutionary advantage for any prey animal, and even a predator that is low in the overall food chain. Anecdotally, I’ve seen similar behavior in spiders, though the literature [2] tells me it’s not specifically gaze that a spider is detecting. I have hunted (to trap) spiders around my house who seem to change behavior (eg play dead) based on my attention, leading me to think that they know they are being hunted on some level well below cognition. Which, coming full circle, lines up with the literature on how crazy accurate human gaze detection is, seems like a very old, low-level function. [1] https://doi.org/10.3758/s13420-015-0204-z https://doi.org/10.3758/s13420-015-0204-z [2] https://www.physoc.org/magazine-articles/some-recent-advances-in-spider-sensory-physiology/ https://www.physoc.org/magazine-articles/some-recent-advance...
huytersd 3y ago
Nonsense. If someone is sitting in front of you and they are texting, the camera is pointing at you.
- jacobsenscott 3y ago
  They don't sit there and point the camera at you for the entire lunch. I don't know what kind of people you have lunch with, but nobody holds their phone vertically and in your face when texting unless they have a serious social skills deficit. They tend to hold it a few inches above the table at a 45 degree angle, or even under the table.

I've never had lunch with someone who was sitting there pointing their phone camera at me.

amethyst 3y ago

With modern wide angle lenses, it doesn't even need to be pointed directly at you to get you completely in the frame.

pests 3y ago
I don't know. Its weird. Kind of like how people have the "someone's staring at you" sense. > The biological phenomenon is known as “gaze detection” or “gaze perception.” Neurological studies have found that the brain cells that initiate this response are very precise. If someone turns their gaze off of you by turning just a few degrees to their left or right, that eerie feeling quickly fades. I 100% beleive we also do this with smartphones. You can 100% detect when a smartphone is looking at you or just being held in your direction. It might not be proven scientifically yet but I know this in my soul. Similar to our ability to determine what someone else is looking at. We can watch someone's purpils move, and then immediately look at the exact area they looked at.
- eep_social 3y ago
  Also, gaze detection extends beyond humans [1]. Citation mentions dogs, birds, and reptiles having some degree of it. In general, attention detection via gaze or body language would be an evolutionary advantage for any prey animal, and even a predator that is low in the overall food chain. Anecdotally, I’ve seen similar behavior in spiders, though the literature [2] tells me it’s not specifically gaze that a spider is detecting. I have hunted (to trap) spiders around my house who seem to change behavior (eg play dead) based on my attention, leading me to think that they know they are being hunted on some level well below cognition. Which, coming full circle, lines up with the literature on how crazy accurate human gaze detection is, seems like a very old, low-level function. [1] https://doi.org/10.3758/s13420-015-0204-z https://doi.org/10.3758/s13420-015-0204-z [2] https://www.physoc.org/magazine-articles/some-recent-advances-in-spider-sensory-physiology/ https://www.physoc.org/magazine-articles/some-recent-advance...

huytersd 3y ago

Nonsense. If someone is sitting in front of you and they are texting, the camera is pointing at you.

jacobsenscott 3y ago
They don't sit there and point the camera at you for the entire lunch. I don't know what kind of people you have lunch with, but nobody holds their phone vertically and in your face when texting unless they have a serious social skills deficit. They tend to hold it a few inches above the table at a 45 degree angle, or even under the table.