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I would be so uncomfortable having lunch with someone wearing these. Am I alone in that?
by toddmorey 3y ago
I would be so uncomfortable having lunch with someone wearing these. Am I alone in that?
- ianbicking 3y agoAs long as the activation is overt I don't think it's a big issue. Overt as in taking a picture or recording requires the user to do something that is noticeable to the people around them. The wake word is quite obvious; the button on the stem is a bit less, but together with the light I think it's fairly clear something is happening.
- brightstep 3y agoActivation via Pegasus spyware will not be overt
- JohnFen 3y agoYou're far from alone in that.
- hightrix 3y agoNot at all. In fact, I would ask someone wearing this to not only remove them from their face but also place them in a backpack/bag.
- hotnfresh 3y agoPeople used to feel all kinds of ways about what is now normal smartphone use. There are probably a lot of remnants of those attitudes in ‘00s media that can still be found. Everyone either got over it or shut up about it because they (ahem, we) had clearly lost. I expect actually-useful smart glasses will eventually overcome the same stigma. Actually-useful being the key part of that.
- hn_throwaway_99 3y agoStrong disagree. I think there is still a fairly large cohort of people who feel that e.g. looking at your phone at dinner, or responding to every random ding from your phone during a conversation, is rude and unacceptable behavior.
- dkonofalski 3y agoAs someone in that cohort, the number of people that feel the same way as me is nearly non-existent. The only people that seem to share the sentiment are my parents and my older colleagues. I have an Apple Watch primarily to avoid having to take my phone out while still being able to see important notifications (I love the focus mode stuff) so I'm not some kind of anti-tech ideologue either. Most other people are not only used to phones being out and around but the vast majority have no qualms about it.
- phyrex 3y agoI got an Apple Watch for this reason when they first came out and found out that people constantly thought I was bored or had to leave because I kept glancing at my watch. Looking at the phone never got a negative response.
- euroderf 3y agoAs field anthropology, this is an interesting observation.
- JohnFen 3y agoThe vast majority of people I know, of all ages, consider this rude and unacceptable behavior.
- herbst 3y agoIf meta had their own mobile OS, taking into account how they have little to zero care for European privacy laws or any privacy really, I highly doubt most people would feel comfortable having conversations with the device nearby.
- Gh0stRAT 3y agoI mean, the light makes it VERY apparent when it's recording or taking a picture. Would you be just as uncomfortable eating lunch with someone who had their phone in their hand? It'd be much easier to surreptitiously record/photograph someone with a phone because they have no status indicator when they're recording and people inadvertently point phone lenses at each other all the time.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y ago> Would you be just as uncomfortable eating lunch with someone who had their phone in their hand? the entire time? of course - and I'd question my decision to invite them unless they're sharing their screen with everyone (showing pics, etc) or taking a group pic, having their phone out and pointed at you for more than a few moments would be both uncomfortable and rude
- somsak2 3y agoif you place a phone face-down and have the macro lens recording, you could pretty easily see both people at a table.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y agoI am not aware of a commonly used phone with a 180 degree FOV macro lens, but regardless of how a phone on the table makes me feel, someone holding a phone up, pointing at me for all of lunch, would be rude and discomforting.
- Gh0stRAT 3y agoThey could be pointing it mostly at the table (<45° angle) and you'd still be in frame without realizing.
- ImPostingOnHN 3y agoI don't see how I could fail to notice that my fellow diner was rudely and discomfortingly holding or using their phone for the entire meal, or that they carefully balanced one end of their phone on top of stuff on the table at a 45 degree angle pointing towards me for no apparent reason
- baby 3y agoJust take them off when you have lunch? That’s what I do with my sunglasses
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- notJim 3y agoIt would be a rare thing that someone would actually be streaming or recording on them, unless you agreed to make a video. Technically someone could record your every conversation with their phone in their pocket or on the table, but no one worries about that, because it goes against the social contract. If one of your friends did that regularly, everyone understands it would likely be the end of that friendship, and others they shared that with would shun them. I think it's the same with these glasses. Another similar example is reading your SOs text messages. In the past this would be impossible because normal people didn't have a "paper trail", but now most everyone does. But it's not a huge concern for most people, because we know it's socially unacceptable to look at someone's messages without a very good reason.
- ParetoOptimal 3y ago> It would be a rare thing that someone would actually be streaming or recording on them, unless you agreed to make a video. I'm not sure how you believe this. > Technically someone could record your every conversation with their phone in their pocket or on the table, but no one worries about that, because it goes against the social contract. Even if the social contract prevented this (I don't believe it does), there's little to no risk of someone being caught recording your conversations with them. No risk means no worry about the social contract. > But it's not a huge concern for most people, because we know it's socially unacceptable to look at someone's messages without a very good reason. I'm assuming you truly believe this, but to me, this is really starting to feel like parody.
- zdragnar 3y agoMaybe I haven't gotten far enough in the thread, but it seems like most people have forgotten that when Google came out with these, the people who were wearing them were called "glassholes".
- specproc 3y agoLet's see how it runs with a decade's worth of water under the bridge. A lot of norms have changed since then. Still gives me the creeps.