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I would love to sit down with any number of 10 random website owners / managers from this list and ask them the following questions: - Why did you block GPTBot

I would love to sit down with any number of 10 random website owners / managers from this list and ask them the following questions: - Why did you block GPTBot? - Are you aware that your content is scraped, directly copied and otherwise repurposed by other website that don't block GPTBot? - What are your plans if in future iterations of the GPT model you're going to see that the GPT model has information that you wrote or produced? Are you going to fight it, and if so - how are you going to do that? I think these are legitimate questions and they are the ones that I would love to hear answers to because I would love nothing more than OpenAI being hamstrung based on the bullshit that they pulled last year with ChatGPT. Never forget that OpenAI stole the web and has had $11.3B in funding[0] and is seeking another round to place it at a $80-90 billion valuation[1]. [0]: https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/openai/company_financials https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/openai/company_finan... [1]: https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/26/openai-is-reportedly-raising-funds-at-a-valuation-of-80-billion-to-90-billion/ https://techcrunch.com/2023/09/26/openai-is-reportedly-raisi...

BeFlatXIII 3y ago
"Stole the web"?
- skilled 3y ago
  No, they came up with all the data for their models themselves.
  - BeFlatXIII 3y ago
    So they copied the data. No one was deprived of the originals.
    - skilled 3y ago
      There is a big difference between copying and stealing. People who copy don’t get sued, people who steal do. Although I am not exactly sure about the difference anyway. Also, if you are going to make an argument, then please do it. I don’t exactly appreciate shallow comments when I have plenty of evidence to show as a rebuttal.
      - BeFlatXIII 3y ago
        Plenty of people who don't steal get sued for IP theft because it's an easy shakedown.
gavinhoward 3y ago
- Because I don't like AI, I don't like their business model, and I don't believe they have the right to do so. - Yes, and I try to block them as I find them. - I will fight it if I am capable because yes, OpenAI stole the web, and the more we can make them hurt for doing so, the better.
JohnFen 3y ago
> Why did you block GPTBot? I block AI scrapers because I don't think that these systems are good for society and I don't want to help make them better. > Are you aware that your content is scraped, directly copied and otherwise repurposed by other website that don't block GPTBot? Yes, which is why I've removed my sites from being publicly accessible. > What are your plans if in future iterations of the GPT model None. There's nothing I can do about it after it's been ingested, so the only realistic thing to do is to let it go and do my best to prevent it from happening with new stuff.

BeFlatXIII 3y ago

"Stole the web"?

skilled 3y ago
No, they came up with all the data for their models themselves.
- BeFlatXIII 3y ago
  So they copied the data. No one was deprived of the originals.
  - skilled 3y ago
    There is a big difference between copying and stealing. People who copy don’t get sued, people who steal do. Although I am not exactly sure about the difference anyway. Also, if you are going to make an argument, then please do it. I don’t exactly appreciate shallow comments when I have plenty of evidence to show as a rebuttal.
    - BeFlatXIII 3y ago
      Plenty of people who don't steal get sued for IP theft because it's an easy shakedown.

gavinhoward 3y ago

- Because I don't like AI, I don't like their business model, and I don't believe they have the right to do so. - Yes, and I try to block them as I find them. - I will fight it if I am capable because yes, OpenAI stole the web, and the more we can make them hurt for doing so, the better.

JohnFen 3y ago

> Why did you block GPTBot? I block AI scrapers because I don't think that these systems are good for society and I don't want to help make them better. > Are you aware that your content is scraped, directly copied and otherwise repurposed by other website that don't block GPTBot? Yes, which is why I've removed my sites from being publicly accessible. > What are your plans if in future iterations of the GPT model None. There's nothing I can do about it after it's been ingested, so the only realistic thing to do is to let it go and do my best to prevent it from happening with new stuff.