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Notable shift in emphasis to mixed reality. I wish they had HDR support called out for the passthrough though. The Quest 2 CPU was too weak, and while this one

Notable shift in emphasis to mixed reality. I wish they had HDR support called out for the passthrough though. The Quest 2 CPU was too weak, and while this one will be better the Apple chips are still way out in front there. The proportion of people in tech I know with a Quest 2 they never use is amazing. We all want VR to work but fundamentally headsets are a bad idea.

CobrastanJorji 3y ago
Could you explain about HDR passthrough? I'm thinking "see real life sunsets in glorious HDR color," which is probably not what you mean.
- make3 3y ago
  hdr for the added content no?
- fidotron 3y ago
  It's that rooms, especially sunny ones, contain incredible amounts of variation in intensity, and that failing to capture/display that is at least as big a problem as not enough pixels per inch. It also helps dramatically if the captured HDR surroundings can be fed on to an envmap for use in the 3D rendering phase.
  - CobrastanJorji 3y ago
    Oh, that makes sense. Real life has a big dynamic range, so if you're trying to augment that, it won't look right unless it also can cover a big dynamic range.
phowat 3y ago
I daily drove my quest 2 using immersed VR for a few months. In the end, the resolution was just not good enough for it to be better than my 3 monitor setup. But I'm looking forward to trying again in a couple of generations.
- nickstinemates 3y ago
  Big same. I want immersed to work so bad. But the resolution/dpi is garbage compared to even a shitty monitor. It also makes me nauseous but I'd be willing to deal with that if the experience was what I want it to be.
- HellDunkel 3y ago
  So you were using a Quest 2 for month before you decided the resolution is generations away from beeing good enough? :)
  - phowat 3y ago
    Yes, I knew I would need to live with some annoyances if I wanted to be an early adopter on this. I tried to adapt but in the end it was just too much of an inconvenience. And while my quest 2 is indeed currently collecting dust, I don't think headsets are a bad idea. Just that their current implementations are not good enough for my use case. Regardless of that, I'm optimistic about the future of using an HMD as your main general computing device's display. I'm willing to bet it will be a pretty common setup in 5 years or so.
    - HellDunkel 3y ago
      Many here want/wanted the same thing. It has always puzzled me why. I like to use a piece of paper next to the computer and i also like the look and feel of a nice wooden desk and the sound of a pair of decend speakers. No matter how great the headset, i fail to see it as an improvement except for some very specific usecases.
      - phowat 3y ago
        Honestly, the answer might just be: "Because it's freaking cool!" and I totally understand why that doesn't appeal to you.
- clnq 3y ago
  The resolution was probably OK, you wanted lower FOV or higher pixels per degree (PPD). There are monitor replacement AR glasses with the same resolution or lower, but acceptable PPD due to their low FOV.

CobrastanJorji 3y ago

Could you explain about HDR passthrough? I'm thinking "see real life sunsets in glorious HDR color," which is probably not what you mean.

make3 3y ago
hdr for the added content no?
fidotron 3y ago
It's that rooms, especially sunny ones, contain incredible amounts of variation in intensity, and that failing to capture/display that is at least as big a problem as not enough pixels per inch. It also helps dramatically if the captured HDR surroundings can be fed on to an envmap for use in the 3D rendering phase.
- CobrastanJorji 3y ago
  Oh, that makes sense. Real life has a big dynamic range, so if you're trying to augment that, it won't look right unless it also can cover a big dynamic range.

phowat 3y ago

I daily drove my quest 2 using immersed VR for a few months. In the end, the resolution was just not good enough for it to be better than my 3 monitor setup. But I'm looking forward to trying again in a couple of generations.

nickstinemates 3y ago
Big same. I want immersed to work so bad. But the resolution/dpi is garbage compared to even a shitty monitor. It also makes me nauseous but I'd be willing to deal with that if the experience was what I want it to be.
HellDunkel 3y ago
So you were using a Quest 2 for month before you decided the resolution is generations away from beeing good enough? :)
- phowat 3y ago
  Yes, I knew I would need to live with some annoyances if I wanted to be an early adopter on this. I tried to adapt but in the end it was just too much of an inconvenience. And while my quest 2 is indeed currently collecting dust, I don't think headsets are a bad idea. Just that their current implementations are not good enough for my use case. Regardless of that, I'm optimistic about the future of using an HMD as your main general computing device's display. I'm willing to bet it will be a pretty common setup in 5 years or so.
  - HellDunkel 3y ago
    Many here want/wanted the same thing. It has always puzzled me why. I like to use a piece of paper next to the computer and i also like the look and feel of a nice wooden desk and the sound of a pair of decend speakers. No matter how great the headset, i fail to see it as an improvement except for some very specific usecases.
    - phowat 3y ago
      Honestly, the answer might just be: "Because it's freaking cool!" and I totally understand why that doesn't appeal to you.
clnq 3y ago
The resolution was probably OK, you wanted lower FOV or higher pixels per degree (PPD). There are monitor replacement AR glasses with the same resolution or lower, but acceptable PPD due to their low FOV.