4 ms·
Philips has known for a decade at least the foam was degrading. It first popped up in commercial respirators in hospitals. They knew full well this foam was bre
by PaulKeeble 3y ago
Philips has known for a decade at least the foam was degrading. It first popped up in commercial respirators in hospitals. They knew full well this foam was breaking down and they did nothing about it for nearly a decade. They are directly responsible for a lot of cancer in their patients and there needs to be the proper consequences for the executives for corporate manslaughter.
How they have behaved through the recall has been equally appalling. They have spent years telling people to keep using their machines and failing to offer replacements, offering a pittance for the machine not allowing people to reasonable replace them. They have made the situation worse since 2019 and its only not starting to get resolved with appropriate replacement funds in place for people to switch to other manufacturers.
- LeoPanthera 3y ago> "They are directly responsible for a lot of cancer in their patients" I would like to see extraordinary evidence for this extraordinary claim.
- whats_a_quasar 3y agoThe pro-publica report describes how the machines would cause cancer: The polyurethane foam used to muffle the sound degrades over time, including into some substances that are carcinogenic. The CPAP machine then blows those particles into the lungs of patients every night. [1] I don't think the reporting proves that the CPAPs caused cancer, but I do think the preponderance of the evidence is that they did. No one is contesting that the foam degraded, or that it was blown into patient's lungs. People would wake up and regularly find black dust in their masks. The pro-publica report does not specify what substance is carcinogenic, but they mention a test report that sounds like a biocompatibility report which found genotoxicity. So it's likely that test also found carcinogenicity. If the machines were blowing carcinogenic particles into people's lungs, that would cause cancer. [1] https://www.propublica.org/article/philips-kept-warnings-about-dangerous-cpaps-secret-profits-soared https://www.propublica.org/article/philips-kept-warnings-abo...
- RecycledEle 3y agoRead the article. The evidence is in the article.
- LeoPanthera 3y agoThe word "cancer" is not in the article.
- vGPU 3y agoThe word “carcinogenic” is.
- LeoPanthera 3y agoAnd that is very different from "directly responsible for a lot of cancer in their patients".
- catchnear4321 3y agoyou know it’s true. this makes it sound like the company implanted cancer in people. hardly! it just enabled and concealed exposure to carcinogenic compounds, through breathing, nightly. for thousands of patients. these are not the same.
- google234123 3y agoWhat's the warranty on a machine? I don't think a manufacturer should be responsible forever for a machine.
- TaylorAlexander 3y agoI think for medical equipment that is found to be causing cancer, a recall should be issued regardless of how old it is!
- iancmceachern 3y agoIt's written in law. A medical device manufacturer must ensure that their device is safe and effective, and provides essential performance and safety, for the service period defined in its instructions for use. Simple as that. Make sense to me, after working in the industry for 20 years I honestly see no need to change this. There are other things we should change, but certainly not this.