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> cannot wait to ask it how to make nuclear weapons So you are telling me what's stopping someone from creating Nuclear weapons today is that they don't have

by jatins 3y ago

> cannot wait to ask it how to make nuclear weapons So you are telling me what's stopping someone from creating Nuclear weapons today is that they don't have the recipe?

phkahler 3y ago
>> So you are telling me what's stopping someone from creating Nuclear weapons today is that they don't have the recipe? No, the OP was coming up with scary sounding things to use AI for to get certain people riled up about it. It doesn't matter if the AI has accurate information to answer the question, if people see it having detailed conversations with anyone about such topics they will want to regulate or ban it. They are just asking for prompts to get that crowd riled up.
- jahewson 3y ago
  Even when it’s earnest it’s always some field outside the competence of the speaker. So we get computer scientists warning about people engineering bio weapons, as if the lab work involved was somehow easy.
- gmerc 3y ago
  We are seeing the same here that’s usually in the fascist toolbox: The uber smart world ending AI that’s simultaneously lying and hallucinating. The virtual equivalent to Schroedingers immigrant.
nilstycho 3y ago
Nuclear weapons is probably not the best comparison, but there are very dangerous infohazards where the only thing missing is the recipe. For example, there are immensely destructive actions that individual misanthropic people can take with low investment. Talking about them is bad for obvious reasons, so I'm not going to give any good examples, but you can probably think of some yourself. Instead, I'll give you a medium example that we have now defended better against. As far as we know, the September 11th hijackers used little more than small knives -- perhaps even ones that were legal to carry in to the cabin -- and mace. To be sure, this is only a medium example, because pilot training made them much more lethal, and an individual probably wouldn't have been as successful as five coordinated men, but the most dangerous resource they had was the idea for the attack, the recipe. Another deliberately medium example is the Kia Challenge, a recent spate of car thefts that requires only a USB cable and a “recipe”. People have had USB cables all along; it was spreading the infohazard that resulted in the spree.

by jatins 3y ago

> cannot wait to ask it how to make nuclear weapons So you are telling me what's stopping someone from creating Nuclear weapons today is that they don't have the recipe?

phkahler 3y ago

>> So you are telling me what's stopping someone from creating Nuclear weapons today is that they don't have the recipe? No, the OP was coming up with scary sounding things to use AI for to get certain people riled up about it. It doesn't matter if the AI has accurate information to answer the question, if people see it having detailed conversations with anyone about such topics they will want to regulate or ban it. They are just asking for prompts to get that crowd riled up.

jahewson 3y ago
Even when it’s earnest it’s always some field outside the competence of the speaker. So we get computer scientists warning about people engineering bio weapons, as if the lab work involved was somehow easy.
gmerc 3y ago
We are seeing the same here that’s usually in the fascist toolbox: The uber smart world ending AI that’s simultaneously lying and hallucinating. The virtual equivalent to Schroedingers immigrant.

nilstycho 3y ago

Nuclear weapons is probably not the best comparison, but there are very dangerous infohazards where the only thing missing is the recipe. For example, there are immensely destructive actions that individual misanthropic people can take with low investment. Talking about them is bad for obvious reasons, so I'm not going to give any good examples, but you can probably think of some yourself. Instead, I'll give you a medium example that we have now defended better against. As far as we know, the September 11th hijackers used little more than small knives -- perhaps even ones that were legal to carry in to the cabin -- and mace. To be sure, this is only a medium example, because pilot training made them much more lethal, and an individual probably wouldn't have been as successful as five coordinated men, but the most dangerous resource they had was the idea for the attack, the recipe. Another deliberately medium example is the Kia Challenge, a recent spate of car thefts that requires only a USB cable and a “recipe”. People have had USB cables all along; it was spreading the infohazard that resulted in the spree.