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That isn't the point. When the union is involved, they keep demanding hire wages and benefits and it gets to the point where companies are better-off offshorin

That isn't the point. When the union is involved, they keep demanding hire wages and benefits and it gets to the point where companies are better-off offshoring. Just look at the automotive industry. They have not only been offshoring, but the unions have strangled them to the point where it nearly destroyed the industry. I will only buy non-US cars as a result of this (mostly because of poor qualit).

specialist 3y ago
Accelerating inequity and record corporate profits are just a coincidence?
Spivak 3y ago
That makes no since because foreign companies are onshoring manufacturing. There's a good chance your foreign car was made here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Honda_Motor_Company https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Honda_Motor_Company https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group_of_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group_of_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Motor_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Motor_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Motor_North_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Motor_North_America The fact that The Ford Dodge GM Chrysler Jeep Dr Pepper Snapple Group can't make a quality car is on them. In real dollars American workers have never cost less. Those fat-cat union workers making… $45k/yr. Don't they understand how their greed affects our profits?
- wilg 3y ago
  None of those companies auto workers are unionized in the US.
  - Spivak 3y ago
    But they're still in the US and paying near identical wages to UAW plants so it's not unions "ever demanding higher wages" that makes the difference. But maybe not forever since the UAW strike those unionized workers might gasp make the same amount they did pre-inflation in real dollars. The greedy bastards not taking a pay cut while the cost of the cars go up and those companies make record profits. Won't you think of the poor owners who are demanding higher returns, I think we can all sacrifice for them.
    - wilg 3y ago
      OK

specialist 3y ago

Accelerating inequity and record corporate profits are just a coincidence?

Spivak 3y ago

That makes no since because foreign companies are onshoring manufacturing. There's a good chance your foreign car was made here. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Honda_Motor_Company https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Honda_Motor_Company https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group_of_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group_of_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Motor_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Motor_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Motor_North_America https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Motor_North_America The fact that The Ford Dodge GM Chrysler Jeep Dr Pepper Snapple Group can't make a quality car is on them. In real dollars American workers have never cost less. Those fat-cat union workers making… $45k/yr. Don't they understand how their greed affects our profits?

wilg 3y ago
None of those companies auto workers are unionized in the US.
- Spivak 3y ago
  But they're still in the US and paying near identical wages to UAW plants so it's not unions "ever demanding higher wages" that makes the difference. But maybe not forever since the UAW strike those unionized workers might gasp make the same amount they did pre-inflation in real dollars. The greedy bastards not taking a pay cut while the cost of the cars go up and those companies make record profits. Won't you think of the poor owners who are demanding higher returns, I think we can all sacrifice for them.
  - wilg 3y ago
    OK