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If your daily commute has congestion (i.e. using it twice per workday), then the price drops to ~$5 per trip. If you live somewhere where you only experience h

by shkkmo 3y ago

If your daily commute has congestion (i.e. using it twice per workday), then the price drops to ~$5 per trip. If you live somewhere where you only experience highway congestion 25 times a year, you probably aren't the target market.

gnicholas 3y ago
This is true, but then each "trip" is reduced to the part of the commute that has sub-40 mph traffic. I guess that could be much of your commute if you're a poor schlub, but then what are the odds you can afford an S-Class Benz?
- SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
  That's an interesting way to think about it. For my city (Edmonton) it seems like if you're well off you're going to be living in a community in the city. It's the middle-class who are paying for a much larger home for a less convenient location.
  - gnicholas 3y ago
    This is in line with what I was trying to say. Basically, you might have a lousy long commute where this would be very valuable. But then you probably can't afford this car.
    - SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
      Ah, I got confused by the "I guess that could be much of your commute if you're a poor schlub" part, because I would assume they'd get up to highway speeds to end up wherever they live, whereas someone more well off wouldn't hit that.
- olyjohn 3y ago
  Where on earth do you sit in traffic that doesn't burst up above 40mph every now and then? It's called stop and go, not go consistently below 40mph. Sounds like this wasn't well thought out. In LA, you'd be in traffic going 80, then screech to a halt, then back up to 80. Even on my commute into Downtown Seattle where people drive slow as fuck, there were always openings between onramps where it was no problem to hit 40. That's such a low bar.
  - gnicholas 3y ago
    Yeah, I agree. This seems like it would be useful for stretches on 405, but not likely the bulk of a trip. Where I live, I could see it being useful for a decent chunk of 101, which could amount to 30 mins each way, each day. I wonder if it drops down into a less-capable driver-assist mode when the speed goes higher, such that you can still just monitor the system for nearly all of your trip. Or does it drop you out into full human-driving mode?
vericiab 3y ago
It depends on the climate where you live though, right? Where I am there's plenty of congestion. There's also plenty of rain, snow, slush, and road construction. The snow removal and construction really take a toll on the lane markings, so detectable lane markings isn't a guarantee either.

by shkkmo 3y ago

gnicholas 3y ago

This is true, but then each "trip" is reduced to the part of the commute that has sub-40 mph traffic. I guess that could be much of your commute if you're a poor schlub, but then what are the odds you can afford an S-Class Benz?

SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
That's an interesting way to think about it. For my city (Edmonton) it seems like if you're well off you're going to be living in a community in the city. It's the middle-class who are paying for a much larger home for a less convenient location.
- gnicholas 3y ago
  This is in line with what I was trying to say. Basically, you might have a lousy long commute where this would be very valuable. But then you probably can't afford this car.
  - SketchySeaBeast 3y ago
    Ah, I got confused by the "I guess that could be much of your commute if you're a poor schlub" part, because I would assume they'd get up to highway speeds to end up wherever they live, whereas someone more well off wouldn't hit that.
olyjohn 3y ago
Where on earth do you sit in traffic that doesn't burst up above 40mph every now and then? It's called stop and go, not go consistently below 40mph. Sounds like this wasn't well thought out. In LA, you'd be in traffic going 80, then screech to a halt, then back up to 80. Even on my commute into Downtown Seattle where people drive slow as fuck, there were always openings between onramps where it was no problem to hit 40. That's such a low bar.
- gnicholas 3y ago
  Yeah, I agree. This seems like it would be useful for stretches on 405, but not likely the bulk of a trip. Where I live, I could see it being useful for a decent chunk of 101, which could amount to 30 mins each way, each day. I wonder if it drops down into a less-capable driver-assist mode when the speed goes higher, such that you can still just monitor the system for nearly all of your trip. Or does it drop you out into full human-driving mode?

vericiab 3y ago

It depends on the climate where you live though, right? Where I am there's plenty of congestion. There's also plenty of rain, snow, slush, and road construction. The snow removal and construction really take a toll on the lane markings, so detectable lane markings isn't a guarantee either.