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What about VSCode? Seems like almost all the devs I know use it, regardless of their feelings about Microsoft products otherwise.

Pannoniae 3y ago
In my experience, it's mostly the less experienced use it. It's electron shovelware, with horrible typing latency and memory usage. No matter how hard MS wants to push it, those don't change. If I need a text editor I use one, if I need a full IDE I use those. This Frankenstein abomination has zero purpose.
- cassianoleal 3y ago
  The vast majority of people I work with use VS Code, from recent graduates to very senior and seasoned devs, myself included. I don't like Microsoft, and before VS Code I had high hopes for Atom. VS Code became nearly everything I wanted on an editor. I could never get used to "full IDEs". I find them awkward and I always feel constrained by them, not in a good way. I experience zero typing latency on VS Code (and I'm very sensitive to that). Granted, memory usage could be better but along with the browser it's my main work tool so I don't mind much that it uses a considerable amount, as long as it doesn't bog down my machine. Of course, to each their own. I hate Microsoft as much as the next person and I wish someone would step in and give me a modular editor with extensive LSP support and an excellent extensions marketplace to replace it. I would consider paying for such a product if it was adequate. I had high hopes that Jetbrains Fleet would be that product, but after having tried its pre-release a few times I'm not holding my breath. I say all this as a former hardcore emacs user.
  - keyle 3y ago
    Same path. On a mac I've been using Zed. If you're on a mac you could consider it. On the downside it's back to lldb for debugging, but that's not a big deal.
snoopen 3y ago
I love Linux and despise $MS in general. VS Code is the only thing from them I genuinely enjoy using. Since most of it is open source I have some confidence it will escape the usual $MS enshitification, or at least VS Codium. There's just not anything I've come across that's as versatile.
PlutoIsAPlanet 3y ago
VSCode is popular due to the lack of a free alternative with the same feature set. Jetbrains Fleet is already looking to be a let down, with it being a larger resource hog by VSCode.
- explorigin 3y ago
  Jetbrains justifies the cost for me. I can easily recoup the cost in productivity over VSCode.
  - nicce 3y ago
    If you project is big enough, resource cost is more reasonable. VSCode starts lagging while Jetbrains products can scroll file with 500k lines without problem.

Pannoniae 3y ago

In my experience, it's mostly the less experienced use it. It's electron shovelware, with horrible typing latency and memory usage. No matter how hard MS wants to push it, those don't change. If I need a text editor I use one, if I need a full IDE I use those. This Frankenstein abomination has zero purpose.

cassianoleal 3y ago
The vast majority of people I work with use VS Code, from recent graduates to very senior and seasoned devs, myself included. I don't like Microsoft, and before VS Code I had high hopes for Atom. VS Code became nearly everything I wanted on an editor. I could never get used to "full IDEs". I find them awkward and I always feel constrained by them, not in a good way. I experience zero typing latency on VS Code (and I'm very sensitive to that). Granted, memory usage could be better but along with the browser it's my main work tool so I don't mind much that it uses a considerable amount, as long as it doesn't bog down my machine. Of course, to each their own. I hate Microsoft as much as the next person and I wish someone would step in and give me a modular editor with extensive LSP support and an excellent extensions marketplace to replace it. I would consider paying for such a product if it was adequate. I had high hopes that Jetbrains Fleet would be that product, but after having tried its pre-release a few times I'm not holding my breath. I say all this as a former hardcore emacs user.
- keyle 3y ago
  Same path. On a mac I've been using Zed. If you're on a mac you could consider it. On the downside it's back to lldb for debugging, but that's not a big deal.

snoopen 3y ago

I love Linux and despise $MS in general. VS Code is the only thing from them I genuinely enjoy using. Since most of it is open source I have some confidence it will escape the usual $MS enshitification, or at least VS Codium. There's just not anything I've come across that's as versatile.

PlutoIsAPlanet 3y ago

VSCode is popular due to the lack of a free alternative with the same feature set. Jetbrains Fleet is already looking to be a let down, with it being a larger resource hog by VSCode.

explorigin 3y ago
Jetbrains justifies the cost for me. I can easily recoup the cost in productivity over VSCode.
- nicce 3y ago
  If you project is big enough, resource cost is more reasonable. VSCode starts lagging while Jetbrains products can scroll file with 500k lines without problem.