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I've had X220s and X220Ts for a few years, and I agree that they're probably one of the best laptops you can get second-hand. But they aren't as cheap as they u
by smlavine 3y ago
I've had X220s and X220Ts for a few years, and I agree that they're probably one of the best laptops you can get second-hand. But they aren't as cheap as they used to be on eBay and they're only getting older. I had to cycle through three X220/Ts in four years because they failed for various reasons. Screen died. Bios just decided to stop working.
Finally I decided to ditch my last one by choice this summer and got a Thinkpad X13 Yoga Gen 3 and I really love it. Battery life of at least ten hours for what I'm doing. Still great Linux support. It's not too much lighter than the X220T, but it's a whole lot thinner and that's important trying to shove a whole lot of stuff in one bag. Also: USB-C charging means I no longer have to carry around a big proprietary brick and cable. I can just use the same charger as my phone. That's also important when it comes to weight and space savings.
The reason I chose this model in particular is because like the X220T, it also has the digitizer pen garaged in the frame. Really hard to find laptops that met that, and USB C, and thin, and Thinkpad keyboard + mouse nub. In fact I think it's the only one.
If this (fingers crossed) lasts me a while, amortized I don't think the cost up front will be that much more than what I would've had to have spent upgrading and transferring parts between eBay franken-ThinkPads over the same time.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago> Thinkpad X13 Yoga Gen 3 Sadly it has that shitty modern Lenovo keyboard, with Fn in the left part of the keyboard (I'm not talking about Fn/Ctrl placement), Insert on Fn+End combo (Why?! WHY?![0]) and the stupid PrtScr under the right thumb, like you are taking screenshots every minute. This alone averts me from any ThinkPad past x220 (and even x220 has elephantitis on the Del key..) [0] and now I'm talking about Fn placement on the left side - even I can't make Fn+End with one hand. Compare it to ASUS TM420 keyboard: https://i0.wp.com/techraman.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/Asus-Vivobook-Flip-14_keyboard.jpg?w=1080&ssl=1 https://i0.wp.com/techraman.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/07/A...
- smlavine 3y agoTo be honest I've never even noticed those problems. I don't use any of those buttons ever at all, really.
- justsomehnguy 3y agoSometimes it's not even "I use them not", sometimes it's "I need to use them because some program/whatever requires them" so there is no options. And PrtScr on these keyboards replaces ContextMenu and I'm hardwired for a quarter of century to use it when I'm on the go without a mouse (hey, it's a laptop!). I lost my clipboard contents too many times so I had to figure it out, but it's ridiculous in the first place. And overall it's like having a dildo in the driver seat of your car - you can choose to use it or not to, but still there should be no such thing in the driver seat of a car at all. /rant
- HeadsUpHigh 3y agoThe large Del key is great, it makes it easier to hit it blindly while typing.
- justsomehnguy 3y ago... I don't remember I ever missed DEL on any laptop keyboard with a separate, two row functional keys block. At least never to bother me enough to remember that. It's in the bottom-left edge, you can't miss it, you have the tactile feel of it.
- garciansmith 3y agoI fully agree about the newer ThinkPad keyboards. I wouldn't call them shitty, but after using the old ones it's such a step back. I use a key remapper to fix this stuff, currently using Xmonad which works very well (e.g., that dumb screenshot key is now the traditional menu key).
- dTal 3y ago>any ThinkPad past x220 not even the Thinkpad T25 Anniversary Edition?
- taskforcegemini 3y agoI have both. The compactness of the x220 feels better, but I spent important years on an x61t so ymmv
- _cenw 3y agoMe and my partners T420 had their BIOS die simultaneously in 2020, there's definitely something going wrong with these devices.