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Nice and detailed demo. What will take this from toy to a product to daily driver? I love the idea of all application windows being able to be moved into tab g

Nice and detailed demo. What will take this from toy to a product to daily driver? I love the idea of all application windows being able to be moved into tab groups. Are there window managers that do similar things?

wdfx 3y ago
i3 at least has a tabbed container. I think it's common in tiling window managers?
- WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
  I vaguely remember fluxbox having such a feature.
  - Zetobal 3y ago
    Yes, mostly the reason why I switched from openbox to fluxbox back in the day.
Sidneys1 3y ago
Stardock Groupy adds this functionality to Windows, and Microsoft briefly toyed with the idea themselves [1]. [1]: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-windows-10-testers-will-soon-see-timeline-sets-features/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-windows-10-testers-w...
- notpushkin 3y ago
  I've used some third party tool on Windows, too. I've even tried disabling tabs in Firefox so that I could mix and match the “native” ones, but it didn't really work out. Good times!
lloeki 3y ago
> I love the idea of all application windows being able to be moved into tab groups. Are there window managers that do similar things? Haiku Stack&Tile! https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/gui.html#stack-tile https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/gui.html#stack-ti... A long time ago I implemented something like it (the stack part, not the tile part) in Awesome/Lua, so that floating windows could be tabbed together. Code is lost though. It was a bit too buggy anyway, pushing Awesome to its limits.
- rollcat 3y ago
  I think one of the old X11 window managers could mimic that behavior as well, when using the BeOS skin... It might've been KWin around KDE3 series, but my memory might be failing me.
- sprash 3y ago
  Pekwm[1] does this and is still actively developed. One of my favorite floating WMs. 1.:https://github.com/pekwm/pekwm https://github.com/pekwm/pekwm
suby 3y ago
I'm not sure that anything like this would ever be suitable for a daily driver due to a lack of graphics drivers and the like. It would be amazing if there was an OS agnostic driver layer, or if we could somehow reuse the driver stack from Linux or Windows. As far as I'm aware nothing like that actually exists though.
- rollcat 3y ago
  The *BSDs import the Linux graphics drivers these days. Big chunk of AMD GPU drivers are autogenerated from hardware description tables.
- userbinator 3y ago
  It depends what you want to do for a "daily driver". Basic things like writing documents, viewing images, and (limited) web browsing using a text-based browser would probably be perfectly fine with an unaccelerated framebuffer. It would be amazing if there was an OS agnostic driver layer That's what things like VESA VBE are for.
bandie91 3y ago
fluxbox can do

wdfx 3y ago

i3 at least has a tabbed container. I think it's common in tiling window managers?

WesolyKubeczek 3y ago
I vaguely remember fluxbox having such a feature.
- Zetobal 3y ago
  Yes, mostly the reason why I switched from openbox to fluxbox back in the day.

Sidneys1 3y ago

Stardock Groupy adds this functionality to Windows, and Microsoft briefly toyed with the idea themselves [1]. [1]: https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-windows-10-testers-will-soon-see-timeline-sets-features/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-windows-10-testers-w...

notpushkin 3y ago
I've used some third party tool on Windows, too. I've even tried disabling tabs in Firefox so that I could mix and match the “native” ones, but it didn't really work out. Good times!

lloeki 3y ago

> I love the idea of all application windows being able to be moved into tab groups. Are there window managers that do similar things? Haiku Stack&Tile! https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/gui.html#stack-tile https://www.haiku-os.org/docs/userguide/en/gui.html#stack-ti... A long time ago I implemented something like it (the stack part, not the tile part) in Awesome/Lua, so that floating windows could be tabbed together. Code is lost though. It was a bit too buggy anyway, pushing Awesome to its limits.

rollcat 3y ago
I think one of the old X11 window managers could mimic that behavior as well, when using the BeOS skin... It might've been KWin around KDE3 series, but my memory might be failing me.
sprash 3y ago
Pekwm[1] does this and is still actively developed. One of my favorite floating WMs. 1.:https://github.com/pekwm/pekwm https://github.com/pekwm/pekwm

suby 3y ago

I'm not sure that anything like this would ever be suitable for a daily driver due to a lack of graphics drivers and the like. It would be amazing if there was an OS agnostic driver layer, or if we could somehow reuse the driver stack from Linux or Windows. As far as I'm aware nothing like that actually exists though.

rollcat 3y ago
The *BSDs import the Linux graphics drivers these days. Big chunk of AMD GPU drivers are autogenerated from hardware description tables.
userbinator 3y ago
It depends what you want to do for a "daily driver". Basic things like writing documents, viewing images, and (limited) web browsing using a text-based browser would probably be perfectly fine with an unaccelerated framebuffer. It would be amazing if there was an OS agnostic driver layer That's what things like VESA VBE are for.

bandie91 3y ago

fluxbox can do