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>> how many people are in jail or lost their kids due to something that didn't actually happen. Thousands upon thousands. By some estimates upwards of 10% of
by sandworm101 3y ago
>> how many people are in jail or lost their kids due to something that didn't actually happen.
Thousands upon thousands. By some estimates upwards of 10% of incarcerated individuals. The situation is just accepted. The general consensus is always that locking up too many people is better than than too few. It is on defense attorneys to check on the system.
- lqet 3y agoAre you saying that 10% of incarcerated individuals are innocent (which I do not find an unrealistic number), or are you saying that 10% of incarcerated individuals are wrongly in prison for crimes against their children?
- sandworm101 3y ago10% of people are innocent of the crimes for which they have been convicted. Whole innocence is another thing. But yes, there are a huge number of people wrongfully convicted. Things like DNA evidence is showing us that a great many mistakes are made. For those crimes convicted without things like DNA evidence, one must presume an equal rate of wrongful convictions. Courts are not FAA crash investigations, or any other sort of investigation. They are not about truth. They are about rights and laws. There is no right to a truthful outcome, only a lawful one.
- lqet 3y agoI agree, but I think OP referred to crimes involving violence against their own children.
- rossant 3y agoYes. I suggest everyone to look into the fantastic work done by the Innocence Project [1] and the Innocence Network [2]. Also, the Innocence Files is a must-watch on Netflix [3]. [1] https://innocenceproject.org/ https://innocenceproject.org/ [2] https://innocencenetwork.org/ https://innocencenetwork.org/ [3] https://www.netflix.com/title/80214563 https://www.netflix.com/title/80214563
- Dah00n 3y agoNot everywhere is the US.
- dcow 3y agoThis isn’t even true for the US. In the US we believe it’s better to let a criminal run free than deprive an innocent of their liberty.
- bell-cot 3y ago> In the US we believe... Sadly, that varies enormously with the social status and wealth of the accused.
- MacsHeadroom 3y ago"It is better to let 100 criminals go free than to imprison 1 innocent man." — Benjamin Franklin
- sandworm101 3y agoA quote I have never heard from anyone running to be a DA, judge, sheriff, magistrate, or any other participant beyond defense attorneys. Such sayings do not reflect reality.
- rossant 3y agoI've seen police officers say the exact opposite: "It's better to imprison 100 innocent people than risking letting 1 criminal go free and harm children". Sigh.
- kmkemp 3y agoThat seems to be the sentiment based on our founding origins or if you talk to an individual, but the fact is that we imprison more people per capita than anyone else. It's hard for me to believe that all of the criminals just live in the USA.
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- eecc 3y agoImagine when it’s not just locking up, but spills over to state homicide: https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/24/texas-death-row-robert-roberson-supreme-court-shaken-baby-syndrome https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/24/texas-death-ro...
- dang 3y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37667150 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37667150.