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Well, if in drugstores most of the products must be locked away and you need to ask a clerk to get them, there is obviously a problem, regardless of what the st
by jansan 3y ago
Well, if in drugstores most of the products must be locked away and you need to ask a clerk to get them, there is obviously a problem, regardless of what the statistics say.
- fzeroracer 3y agoWhen you need to board a plane there's a ton of security you need to go through and you need to be thoroughly investigated. So obviously criminals causing issues on planes is a big problem. It's all security theatre. Theft does exist and happens, but it becomes an excuse by management to lock up toothpaste behind glass cases so that they can pretend their store isn't falling apart.
- jansan 3y agoAre you aware that in most parts of the world there is not a single product locked away in drugstores or supermarkets?
- fzeroracer 3y agoYes, I live in one where the target locked up toothpaste while the other stores a block away locked up nothing. It's incredibly weird that you keep trying to push a narrative on someone living in that area with experiences that directly contradict yours. Where in Seattle do you live?
- jansan 3y agoBy "the world" I actually mean "the world" as in the planet earth or all seven continents, not just the neighboring state in the United States of America.
- fzeroracer 3y agoOkay, great. What's your point here? I live in an area where that issue you bring up does not exist. States have a wide degree in variation (I would know, since I've lived on both coasts and in Texas). Do you live in WA? Or anywhere in the greater US?
- jansan 3y agoNo, I do not live in the US.
- bushbaba 3y agoSafeway, Target, CVS all have extra security precautions in place only in SF than these retailers aren’t implementing in the surrounding Bay Area. CVS in Palo Alto doesn’t lock up goods. Target in EPA doesn’t lock up drugs or formula. Etc. SF city has a theft problem that is clearly worse than other Bay Area towns.
- Schiendelman 3y agoExcuse me - CVS in San Jose does lock up goods. Your assertion doesn’t hold.
- bushbaba 3y agoNo where near as many as SF though.
- DragonStrength 3y agoWhy would they need to lock up items to keep the store looking good? What is making those products move and leave the store without payment except social disorder? I was just in (bigger) US city where the pharmacy was picked over for what I wanted but none of it was locked up except the razor blades or whatever you'll find locked everywhere. They didn't feel the need to put plastic barriers up. They also didn't have a security guard at the front. In SF, I know you need both because I have seen dozens pile into the residential Walgreens at once and clean it out. But yeah, it's all theater and just marketing to make SF look bad. I understand SF Bay Area residents are embarrassed of what they created, but denying the problem isn't helping.
- JohnMakin 3y agoI’ve seen razors and even underwear locked up in a walmart in Irvine, CA, one of the safest cities in the entire country. There is nothing particularly exceptional about SF’s crime, nor is there any data to support claims like this. Just anecdotes and a lot of “trust me bro.”
- iJohnDoe 3y agoI think you made a surprisingly good point on an unrelated topic. I think this particular observation is related to rising costs and some people struggling to afford things. These are probably younger people doing the thefts or outsiders going into Irvine to steal. I noticed a combo package with a razor and separate blades and someone ripped out the blades from the package because the back of the package was cardboard. I thought it looked really weird at first and then later realized someone probably stole the blades out.
- DragonStrength 3y agoYep, some items are locked up almost everywhere, as the post you replied to said. What's unique to SF is the amount of uniformed security and amount of items locked up versus what you'd see in the same store in Manhattan, for instance. You can discount the anecdotes all you want, but what's going on in SF is not the same as other urban areas. Perhaps it's a west coast contagion, since the apologists mostly point to other west coast cities, which are suffering similar issues?