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> Apple has never been big on the web. At some point they had a new browser that they provided to windows as well and could have expanded way further. They cou

> Apple has never been big on the web. At some point they had a new browser that they provided to windows as well and could have expanded way further. They could have made Safari a true alternative to IE, Chrome, Firefox. They didn't, it didn't make sense for them. So yes, Apple isn't big on the web, but it's in part of their own doing. Safari not being a viable browser outside of the mac and iOS is nobody's fault except Apple. On wether Apple can face Google...let's put it in perspective: - can Apple face Facebook: sure, at one point they killed their stock value overnight through a single policy change on iOS - can Apple face Microsoft: a long time ago no. Today they're showing Microsoft the middle finger when they're trying to let users stream games on Apple's platform. - can Apple face the US government: welp, they sure do. We've seen nothing coming out from any trial or policy happening in the US. So, can Apple face Google ? I kinda think they can, yes. They have the money, the lawyers, the lobbies and politicians in their pocket. If they really wanted to, they could probably force Google to change on any front they're competing on.

troupo 3y ago
> at one point they killed their stock value overnight through a single policy change on iOS Facebook is destroyed I tell you, completely obliterated. > they could probably force Google to change on any front they're competing on. Is Apple competing with Google in: - web search? - user generated content (Youtube)? - email? - developer tools (GCP)?
- makeitdouble 3y ago
  Does it matter if Apple isn't competing on every single area Google has a hand into ? Should we also ask if Google is competing in TV production business, luxury watch bands, or computer wheels ? To get back to the original point, Apple has a browser, and the means to raise a case against Google being too dominant in the browser space. They'd have plenty evidence of Google interfering with the market if they'd go all in and were faced with unfair practices. They never did and probably don't intend to, because they kinda don't care as long as Google isn't threatening their walled garden. That's where the "Apple is the only defense against V8" falls flat to me.
  - troupo 3y ago
    > Does it matter if Apple isn't competing on every single area Google has a hand into ? That is shifting the discussion. > To get back to the original point, Apple has a browser, and the means to raise a case against Google being too dominant in the browser space. Yes, they could

troupo 3y ago

> at one point they killed their stock value overnight through a single policy change on iOS Facebook is destroyed I tell you, completely obliterated. > they could probably force Google to change on any front they're competing on. Is Apple competing with Google in: - web search? - user generated content (Youtube)? - email? - developer tools (GCP)?

makeitdouble 3y ago
Does it matter if Apple isn't competing on every single area Google has a hand into ? Should we also ask if Google is competing in TV production business, luxury watch bands, or computer wheels ? To get back to the original point, Apple has a browser, and the means to raise a case against Google being too dominant in the browser space. They'd have plenty evidence of Google interfering with the market if they'd go all in and were faced with unfair practices. They never did and probably don't intend to, because they kinda don't care as long as Google isn't threatening their walled garden. That's where the "Apple is the only defense against V8" falls flat to me.
- troupo 3y ago
  > Does it matter if Apple isn't competing on every single area Google has a hand into ? That is shifting the discussion. > To get back to the original point, Apple has a browser, and the means to raise a case against Google being too dominant in the browser space. Yes, they could