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Yeah, and the ones Apple makes are both consumer grade and nothing special.

by c048 3y ago

kortilla 3y ago
“Consumer grade” is literally the best though. The iPhone isn’t some watered down version of the good thing that governments and rich people use. It’s as good as money can buy.
- bmitc 3y ago
  That is debatable, and it also doesn't negate the fact that they're nothing but a consumer electronics company.
- c048 3y ago
  They aren't 'literally' the best, not in software or hardware. They might be high tier consumer items, but that makes them luxury items and does not magically elevate them to best business grade software or hardware (broadly speaking).
  - Aaargh20318 3y ago
    > They might be high tier consumer items, but that makes them luxury items and does not magically elevate them to best business grade software or hardware (broadly speaking). You mean 'lower', now 'elevate'. Business-grade software is usually a tier below consumer-grade. After all, you only have to convince management on the business-advantages of your software, not the actual users who have to use it on a day-to-day basis. They don't get a vote. That's why business software gets away with terrible performance and UX.
  - dividedbyzero 3y ago
    What are those superior "business-grade" phones, computers, OSes? Please provide some examples.
    - c048 3y ago
      Feel free to wake me when IOS and Macs are running most of the IT infrastructure in the world.
      - kortilla 3y ago
        That’s not a refutation. Show us the phone that only billionaires can afford because it’s better.
        c048 3y ago
        Why are you suddenly bringing in billionaires in this picture? This is about Apple software and hardware not being the best in class, an example no-one can refute being the hardware/software needs for businesses. Hell, depending on what you're looking for you can buy better consumer level items (and often cheaper). Apple makes luxury consumer items, this shouldn't even be questioned.
  - huytersd 3y ago
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Yeah, and the ones Apple makes are both consumer grade and nothing special.

by c048 3y ago

Yeah, and the ones Apple makes are both consumer grade and nothing special.

“Consumer grade” is literally the best though. The iPhone isn’t some watered down version of the good thing that governments and rich people use. It’s as good as money can buy.

bmitc 3y ago
That is debatable, and it also doesn't negate the fact that they're nothing but a consumer electronics company.
c048 3y ago
They aren't 'literally' the best, not in software or hardware. They might be high tier consumer items, but that makes them luxury items and does not magically elevate them to best business grade software or hardware (broadly speaking).
- Aaargh20318 3y ago
  > They might be high tier consumer items, but that makes them luxury items and does not magically elevate them to best business grade software or hardware (broadly speaking). You mean 'lower', now 'elevate'. Business-grade software is usually a tier below consumer-grade. After all, you only have to convince management on the business-advantages of your software, not the actual users who have to use it on a day-to-day basis. They don't get a vote. That's why business software gets away with terrible performance and UX.
- dividedbyzero 3y ago
  What are those superior "business-grade" phones, computers, OSes? Please provide some examples.
  - c048 3y ago
    Feel free to wake me when IOS and Macs are running most of the IT infrastructure in the world.
    - kortilla 3y ago
      That’s not a refutation. Show us the phone that only billionaires can afford because it’s better.
      - c048 3y ago
        Why are you suddenly bringing in billionaires in this picture? This is about Apple software and hardware not being the best in class, an example no-one can refute being the hardware/software needs for businesses. Hell, depending on what you're looking for you can buy better consumer level items (and often cheaper). Apple makes luxury consumer items, this shouldn't even be questioned.
- huytersd 3y ago
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