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I think people are overblowing his investment in making it competitive It's quite easy to cheat in Zwift as you can put any weight on your profile (and the met

by dktp 3y ago

I think people are overblowing his investment in making it competitive It's quite easy to cheat in Zwift as you can put any weight on your profile (and the metric for measuring speed is generally W/kg). As well as different trainers have different power measurement accuracy, etc But to some degree Zwift and other 3rd party Zwift race-tracking platform find the cheaters based on outliers and other factors and remove them from the list All he did is figure out a way to cheat which should be simple to detect by the platform itself (changing weight mid-ride -> ie make yourself lighter uphill and heavier downhill) and demonstrated it. And he got banned for it The way I see it, it's the same as someone demonstrating an LLM prompt injection or a cheat in a video game. A geek hacking a thing they like and showcasing it

eitally 3y ago
The most effective way of "cheating without cheating" is just using something like Sauce for Zwift or a head unit that displays your rolling 20min power, so you can effectively "sandbag" and keep your power under the threshold for the next category. This is arguably not cheating at all, just smart racing, but it is not a great racing experience when you're in the top third or so of a category and you race someone who very clearly is far superior and only staying in your cat to rack up podiums. To be fair, though, 1) this makes a lot of sense for team racing series, and 2) it's a really crappy experience to be at the bottom of a category and get dropped within 2 minutes of the start of every race. I'm 100% convinced the vast majority of people either outright cheating or gaming the system are Cat C riders trying to avoid getting upleveled to B.
- 303uru 3y ago
  For heavier riders this is almost the only way to enjoy racing on Zwift. Even with a high FTP, I will never compete in A. So I jump in B races, use them as sweet spot training and get some sprint in at the end.

by dktp 3y ago

eitally 3y ago

The most effective way of "cheating without cheating" is just using something like Sauce for Zwift or a head unit that displays your rolling 20min power, so you can effectively "sandbag" and keep your power under the threshold for the next category. This is arguably not cheating at all, just smart racing, but it is not a great racing experience when you're in the top third or so of a category and you race someone who very clearly is far superior and only staying in your cat to rack up podiums. To be fair, though, 1) this makes a lot of sense for team racing series, and 2) it's a really crappy experience to be at the bottom of a category and get dropped within 2 minutes of the start of every race. I'm 100% convinced the vast majority of people either outright cheating or gaming the system are Cat C riders trying to avoid getting upleveled to B.

303uru 3y ago
For heavier riders this is almost the only way to enjoy racing on Zwift. Even with a high FTP, I will never compete in A. So I jump in B races, use them as sweet spot training and get some sprint in at the end.