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it's interesting that the article is about mutton, however a lot of comments here are about sheep/lamb. very curious, why not goat?

palmfacehn 3y ago
The original meaning of mutton is an adult sheep. In English I don't believe there is a proper name for goat meat other than "goat meat". In some areas of the Anglosphere mutton is used to refer to goat meat.
- phlakaton 3y ago
  Some local curry restaurants in the Bay Area use goat for recipes that call for mutton, and sell it as mutton curry – but I assume that's because mutton is not an option...
  - defrost 3y ago
    If you visit areas with less domesticated animals that forage semi wild with shepards that check in now and again you might struggle to tell the difference between a sheep and a goat - the varieties of each are broader than many people realise and there is a considerable degree of visual overlap in the full spectrum of Sheep Vs. Goat.
    - willvarfar 3y ago
      Sheep and goats are so skeletally similar that archaeologists can't easily tell the difference. I just googled and there are signs like the third cusp of the third molar etc but I remember an archaeologist telling me that they just refer to them as sheepgoats, as though there was some mystical single type in antiquity.
  - fractalb 3y ago
    Great, you get goat meat when you order mutton in the Bay Area? Here where I live, people sell mutton (sheep/lamb) even when asked for goat meat. I don't know why but people here always prefer goat meat to mutton.
    - phlakaton 3y ago
      It splits along cultural lines, maybe. Jamaican joints seem proud of their goat curry. Indian joints seem more attached to the mutton moniker.
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- billfruit 3y ago
  There is term called 'Chevon', apparently.
SECProto 3y ago
Etymologically, English uses different words for animals than the meat, and the food word comes from the french (cow/beef/boeuf, pig/pork/porc, sheep/mutton/mouton). Looking at goat in french, Chèvre, that is used quite regularly to describe goat's milk cheeses, but I've never heard it or a derivative to refer to goat meat. Typical dishes I've seen are things like "curried goat". Wikipedia has some more info, but notably, the article title is "goat meat". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat_meat
vinnyvichy 3y ago
Goat has too much of a satanic connotation perhaps. There was a marketing term from 1922 "chevon", doesn't that sound a lot like se7en to you? (Seven sins etc).

palmfacehn 3y ago

The original meaning of mutton is an adult sheep. In English I don't believe there is a proper name for goat meat other than "goat meat". In some areas of the Anglosphere mutton is used to refer to goat meat.

phlakaton 3y ago
Some local curry restaurants in the Bay Area use goat for recipes that call for mutton, and sell it as mutton curry – but I assume that's because mutton is not an option...
- defrost 3y ago
  If you visit areas with less domesticated animals that forage semi wild with shepards that check in now and again you might struggle to tell the difference between a sheep and a goat - the varieties of each are broader than many people realise and there is a considerable degree of visual overlap in the full spectrum of Sheep Vs. Goat.
  - willvarfar 3y ago
    Sheep and goats are so skeletally similar that archaeologists can't easily tell the difference. I just googled and there are signs like the third cusp of the third molar etc but I remember an archaeologist telling me that they just refer to them as sheepgoats, as though there was some mystical single type in antiquity.
- fractalb 3y ago
  Great, you get goat meat when you order mutton in the Bay Area? Here where I live, people sell mutton (sheep/lamb) even when asked for goat meat. I don't know why but people here always prefer goat meat to mutton.
  - phlakaton 3y ago
    It splits along cultural lines, maybe. Jamaican joints seem proud of their goat curry. Indian joints seem more attached to the mutton moniker.
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billfruit 3y ago
There is term called 'Chevon', apparently.

SECProto 3y ago

Etymologically, English uses different words for animals than the meat, and the food word comes from the french (cow/beef/boeuf, pig/pork/porc, sheep/mutton/mouton). Looking at goat in french, Chèvre, that is used quite regularly to describe goat's milk cheeses, but I've never heard it or a derivative to refer to goat meat. Typical dishes I've seen are things like "curried goat". Wikipedia has some more info, but notably, the article title is "goat meat". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat_meat https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat_meat

vinnyvichy 3y ago

Goat has too much of a satanic connotation perhaps. There was a marketing term from 1922 "chevon", doesn't that sound a lot like se7en to you? (Seven sins etc).