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Invoking Gebru immediately discredits any article. She had a brief moment of fame for not doing her job and encouraging others to not do theirs as well, and som

Invoking Gebru immediately discredits any article. She had a brief moment of fame for not doing her job and encouraging others to not do theirs as well, and somehow came away with some synthetic street credit for it in slacktavist circles; she's somehow become a lazy talking point for people who want to insinuate without actually doing real research.

oh_sigh 3y ago
I don't think so, but I think presenting the story as "she was fired for speaking up against AI" certainly discredits it. She was "fired" because she said "do X or I'll resign", and someone said "ok, we accept your resignation". She also was in a managerial role and told her reports and others to basically stop doing the work they were doing, which will usually get you fired from any company for not following marching orders from the higher ups.
- colordrops 3y ago
  She is a troll at this point if her tweets are any measure, most of them being rage bait.
kelseyfrog 3y ago
I thought we examining arguments divorced from who says them?
bluepod4 3y ago
@gnicholas @dang See what I was talking about 4 days ago! Just the name Gebru is triggering to (some) HN users. My comment from 4 days ago: “”” Sidenote: HN isn’t all fun and games. Please don’t paint it as that. When I (and peers that I’ve spoken with) talk about HN, it’s usually characterized as a forum where really smart people like to bump heads. A place where people like to outsmart each other. A place where people nitpick article titles. You get the idea. Your behavior-correcting skills were needed during plenty of more appropriate times. For example, when someone with a username like “koreanguy” said that he wanted to personally kill Timnit Gebru if he could. No downvotes or flag after many refreshes. Want to know why? Because plenty of other men were leaving similar disgusting comments in that post. This is just one example out of many of “weird” behavior on this forum. How many times has the mod here left that “be nice and follow the guidelines” comment on charged articles? (Some) HN users love a good dogwhistle! “”” Not to say that this recent comment is absolutely negative in any way. But the floodgates are about to open lol (Context: I left a very innocuous comment about SAT scores on that TI-83 calculator post and someone was trying to reprimand me for it lol. They called it strange behavior. I’m like “wait… huh… but isn’t this Hacker News? These people start acting like apes whenever Timnit Gebru is mentioned!”)
TaylorAlexander 3y ago
It sounds like you haven’t been following her ongoing work. I really like what she has been doing.

oh_sigh 3y ago

I don't think so, but I think presenting the story as "she was fired for speaking up against AI" certainly discredits it. She was "fired" because she said "do X or I'll resign", and someone said "ok, we accept your resignation". She also was in a managerial role and told her reports and others to basically stop doing the work they were doing, which will usually get you fired from any company for not following marching orders from the higher ups.

colordrops 3y ago
She is a troll at this point if her tweets are any measure, most of them being rage bait.

kelseyfrog 3y ago

I thought we examining arguments divorced from who says them?

bluepod4 3y ago

@gnicholas @dang See what I was talking about 4 days ago! Just the name Gebru is triggering to (some) HN users. My comment from 4 days ago: “”” Sidenote: HN isn’t all fun and games. Please don’t paint it as that. When I (and peers that I’ve spoken with) talk about HN, it’s usually characterized as a forum where really smart people like to bump heads. A place where people like to outsmart each other. A place where people nitpick article titles. You get the idea. Your behavior-correcting skills were needed during plenty of more appropriate times. For example, when someone with a username like “koreanguy” said that he wanted to personally kill Timnit Gebru if he could. No downvotes or flag after many refreshes. Want to know why? Because plenty of other men were leaving similar disgusting comments in that post. This is just one example out of many of “weird” behavior on this forum. How many times has the mod here left that “be nice and follow the guidelines” comment on charged articles? (Some) HN users love a good dogwhistle! “”” Not to say that this recent comment is absolutely negative in any way. But the floodgates are about to open lol (Context: I left a very innocuous comment about SAT scores on that TI-83 calculator post and someone was trying to reprimand me for it lol. They called it strange behavior. I’m like “wait… huh… but isn’t this Hacker News? These people start acting like apes whenever Timnit Gebru is mentioned!”)

TaylorAlexander 3y ago

It sounds like you haven’t been following her ongoing work. I really like what she has been doing.