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The school security enhancements are problematic. We are now looking at schools much like we look at prisons. Constant training on "code red" or "intruder" dr

The school security enhancements are problematic. We are now looking at schools much like we look at prisons. Constant training on "code red" or "intruder" drills that simulate active shooter scenarios with students present. We are creating a culture of fear where even at school you could be attached and killed by a madman. Secured entryways .. fences... constant tracking of students of every metric imaginable.. always back to school "security". Have any of these "code red" security upgrades prevented a school shooting event? What kind of institution do we want our children to attend? What do we want them to learn? I am all for safety in schools but are we responding to a real risk... or are we responding to more a culture of fear and political reaction? What are the real risk to our children? Obesity? Diet. Exercise.. Social / emotional connections. Are we investing our tax money on the right things?

Ms-J 3y ago
I agree. All of this security theater does nothing for safety and increases psychological issues, such as anxiety, in students. There is also a market for predatory companies who sell sham security solutions to the school districts.
riku_iki 3y ago
> We are creating a culture of fear from another hand society is cruel and violent, I am not confident where those kids will live when grow up: in safe gated condo community, or high crime area, so maybe teaching them how to handle danger is a good thing.
- nico 3y ago
  > society is cruel and violent Which society? Why does this happen only (mostly) in the US though? That’s what we should be trying to solve instead of just endlessly escalating Are we going to end up with militarized schools because we can’t address the real issues that create the violence in the first place?
  - riku_iki 3y ago
    > Why does this happen only (mostly) in the US though? > That’s what we should be trying to solve instead of just endlessly escalating I think this culture consists of many components: culture of violence (movies, games), people accept it as given, aggressive capitalism and social segregation. It is hard to tell how much effort it will take to rebuild American society, and if it is achievable.
nico 3y ago
Sounds similar to airport security and the TSA. Maybe soon the government will create an “ESA Education Security Administration”?
yongjik 3y ago
> We are creating a culture of fear where even at school you could be attached and killed by a madman. Welcome to America, where a person entering restaurant carrying a handgun is seen perfectly normal (I mean, if that's not the culture of fear, then what is? You're literally prepared to shoot back while having lunch?) but students not wanting to die in a mass shooting is met with derision and scorn. Culture of fear, indeed.
- Ms-J 3y ago
  Carrying a concealed handgun to a bar or restaurant is quite normal and there's nothing to fear, in fact, some establishments encourage it. I feel even more safe when people do. It's not a culture of fear and more so a culture of being prepared.
jfengel 3y ago
Have any of these "code red" security upgrades prevented a school shooting event? How would we be able to know? They don't expect to arrest people on their way to a shooting. They expect that potential shooters will be scared off from even trying. We do know that the number of shootings keeps going up. The culture of fear is caused by the fact that there's something to be afraid of. The odds are low but the consequences are horrific.

Ms-J 3y ago

I agree. All of this security theater does nothing for safety and increases psychological issues, such as anxiety, in students. There is also a market for predatory companies who sell sham security solutions to the school districts.

riku_iki 3y ago

> We are creating a culture of fear from another hand society is cruel and violent, I am not confident where those kids will live when grow up: in safe gated condo community, or high crime area, so maybe teaching them how to handle danger is a good thing.

nico 3y ago
> society is cruel and violent Which society? Why does this happen only (mostly) in the US though? That’s what we should be trying to solve instead of just endlessly escalating Are we going to end up with militarized schools because we can’t address the real issues that create the violence in the first place?
- riku_iki 3y ago
  > Why does this happen only (mostly) in the US though? > That’s what we should be trying to solve instead of just endlessly escalating I think this culture consists of many components: culture of violence (movies, games), people accept it as given, aggressive capitalism and social segregation. It is hard to tell how much effort it will take to rebuild American society, and if it is achievable.

nico 3y ago

Sounds similar to airport security and the TSA. Maybe soon the government will create an “ESA Education Security Administration”?

yongjik 3y ago

> We are creating a culture of fear where even at school you could be attached and killed by a madman. Welcome to America, where a person entering restaurant carrying a handgun is seen perfectly normal (I mean, if that's not the culture of fear, then what is? You're literally prepared to shoot back while having lunch?) but students not wanting to die in a mass shooting is met with derision and scorn. Culture of fear, indeed.

Ms-J 3y ago
Carrying a concealed handgun to a bar or restaurant is quite normal and there's nothing to fear, in fact, some establishments encourage it. I feel even more safe when people do. It's not a culture of fear and more so a culture of being prepared.

jfengel 3y ago

Have any of these "code red" security upgrades prevented a school shooting event? How would we be able to know? They don't expect to arrest people on their way to a shooting. They expect that potential shooters will be scared off from even trying. We do know that the number of shootings keeps going up. The culture of fear is caused by the fact that there's something to be afraid of. The odds are low but the consequences are horrific.