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I've never installed the Meta omni-permission store on my Android, but I've certainly installed Facebook's applications via the Play Store. I'm not sure why th
by faeriechangling 3y ago
I've never installed the Meta omni-permission store on my Android, but I've certainly installed Facebook's applications via the Play Store.
I'm not sure why the situation would be any different with iOS. It seems to me that the app store would still utterly dominate even if it were exposed to competition.
- Affric 3y agoIf you're posting on Hacker News you're not likely the one most vulnerable to Meta's tactics.
- HWR_14 3y agoGoogle's Play Store allows Meta apps more permissions than Apple's App Store currently does. Meta lost tens of billions in market value (and an estimated $10 billion a year in revenue) when the new Apple App Store privacy rules went into effect. That's a powerful incentive.
- abirch 3y agoYes, Apple is pretty good about privacy. That'll be one reason for Meta and others to create their own stores.
- maxwell 3y agoValve, Epic Games, and Nintendo seem better about privacy but are barred from iOS.
- superb_dev 3y agoValve and Nintendo are barred from iOS in what way? I have the Steam Link app on my iPad, and there are several Nintendo games in the App Store.
- captn3m0 3y agoSteam cannot distribute apps on ios.
- ffgjgf1 3y agoSteam doesn’t distribute apps on Android either? Is it even something they’d want to do?
- robertlagrant 3y agoI'm sure they'd love to - someone else pays for the ecosystem, and they just sell software in it with no markup (or they keep the markup, rather than the ecosystem creator).
- HWR_14 3y agoDoes Valve or the Epic Games store have a privacy policy they enforce on products they sell? I didn't think so. How are they "better about privacy"? Also, Nintendo products and Fortnight both were in the App Store store.
- cycomanic 3y agoI would argue that apple doesn't do this for the good of the users, apples own apps are not restricted in the same way others are. The whole point is giving their own apps an edge over everyone else. This is what gives apple the power to demand deals like the recently covered deal with Google that gave them billions in search revenue.
- justapassenger 3y agoAnd just by pure coincidence, Apple started to push much more of their ads in their App Store around that time.
- jwells89 3y agoThe incentive for Meta, etc to start their own “anything goes” app stores was low when it was a possibility only on Android. It being possible on iOS changes the equation significantly with how iOS users are typically higher value targets due to how on average, they buy/spend more. It also gives them the opportunity to normalize per-megacorp app stores across the board instead of them always being a weird Android thing like they would be if Meta opened an App Store on Android now.
- wkat4242 3y agoI'm sure it'll be a weird iOS thing too if it happens. Apple is going to make it as difficult as they possibly can, the same way sideloading is not trivial on Android for normal users. Also running a third party store does not have to mean being able to break privacy protections. If the ecosystem relies on app inspections that much it simply needs to be secured better.
- sixstringtheory 3y ago> If the ecosystem relies on app inspections that much it simply needs to be secured better. How do you secure something without inspection? We have health code inspections for restaurants, car safety and emissions inspections, IAEA inspectors visiting nuclear facilities… Should we throw all those out too? What replaces them, the goodwill and word of people?
- unethical_ban 3y agoThe ostrich is saying that the technical sandbox controls of the is will still be present.
- sixstringtheory 3y agoThose will never be good enough to overcome social engineering.
- unethical_ban 3y ago