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Funny that you use the term "x64", which is a technically incorrect way to refer to 64 bit x86 / amd64. If anything, "x64" refers to Alpha: 21064, 21164, 21264,

Funny that you use the term "x64", which is a technically incorrect way to refer to 64 bit x86 / amd64. If anything, "x64" refers to Alpha: 21064, 21164, 21264, 21364.

Joker_vD 3y ago
If the thing is widely being known as "x64", then "x64" is that thing's name. That's what the word "name" means. And if you want to be picking nits, it's actually EM64T or at the very worst, IA-32e. Then again, there are actually two versions of this ISA and Intel is currently calling its version "Intel 64" (and AMD used to call their pre-release version "x86-64", by the way), but definitely not "64-bit x86". Edit: Oh hey, you're the same guy who made that silly argument 11 months ago [0]. Never mind me then. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33097250 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33097250
- johnklos 3y ago
  This is in a thread that's about various CPUs INCLUDING Alpha. Good job ;)
  - kjs3 3y ago
    I sure hope you don't call those boxes full of electronics being discussed 'computers' since that's obviously a technically incorrect way to refer to them[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)
    - johnklos 3y ago
      Your pedantry is incorrect. Computers are people who compute and machines that compute. The point is that in a discussion that includes Alpha, "x64" obviously isn't clear. Doubling down with "but everyone does it" isn't a good look.
      - Moomoomoo309 3y ago
        It's a good argument. If "everyone else does it" wasn't an effective argument against changing names, "oceanography" would've been rightfully renamed to "oceanology" by now.
      - kjs3 3y ago
        Your accusation of pedantry, under the circumstances, is comical. Talk about 'isn't a good look'.
        johnklos 3y ago
        You're the one who tried to make my post about the literal incorrectness of calling amd64 "x64" in a thread that also references Alpha, which is the correct usage of "x64", seem silly by saying that I'm referring to computers incorrectly because I'm referring to electronic computers, not human computers. Now you want to pretend it's not an attempt at pedantry? I'm not sure why you WANT to be an asshole, but either disagree with me TECHNICALLY (that is, point out how "x64" is NOT and never was a reference to Alpha, and show evidence how "x64" somehow has always referred to amd64 outside of Windows-centric circles, and we can discuss that), or admit you're trying to be as wise-ass and don't be pedantic then get upset about me supposedly accusing you of being pedantic. In other words, what do you really think you're bringing to the discussion? If you don't like when people point out incorrectness, then just say so. There's a time and a place for making incorrect generalizations. Technical people shouldn't make incorrect generalizations when talking about technical things.
        kjs3 3y ago
        Your accusation of assholery, under the circumstances, is comical. Talk about 'isn't a good look'.

Funny that you use the term "x64", which is a technically incorrect way to refer to 64 bit x86 / amd64. If anything, "x64" refers to Alpha: 21064, 21164, 21264, 21364.

Joker_vD 3y ago

If the thing is widely being known as "x64", then "x64" is that thing's name. That's what the word "name" means. And if you want to be picking nits, it's actually EM64T or at the very worst, IA-32e. Then again, there are actually two versions of this ISA and Intel is currently calling its version "Intel 64" (and AMD used to call their pre-release version "x86-64", by the way), but definitely not "64-bit x86". Edit: Oh hey, you're the same guy who made that silly argument 11 months ago [0]. Never mind me then. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33097250 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33097250

johnklos 3y ago
This is in a thread that's about various CPUs INCLUDING Alpha. Good job ;)
- kjs3 3y ago
  I sure hope you don't call those boxes full of electronics being discussed 'computers' since that's obviously a technically incorrect way to refer to them[1]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_(occupation)
  - johnklos 3y ago
    Your pedantry is incorrect. Computers are people who compute and machines that compute. The point is that in a discussion that includes Alpha, "x64" obviously isn't clear. Doubling down with "but everyone does it" isn't a good look.
    - Moomoomoo309 3y ago
      It's a good argument. If "everyone else does it" wasn't an effective argument against changing names, "oceanography" would've been rightfully renamed to "oceanology" by now.
    - kjs3 3y ago
      Your accusation of pedantry, under the circumstances, is comical. Talk about 'isn't a good look'.
      - johnklos 3y ago
        You're the one who tried to make my post about the literal incorrectness of calling amd64 "x64" in a thread that also references Alpha, which is the correct usage of "x64", seem silly by saying that I'm referring to computers incorrectly because I'm referring to electronic computers, not human computers. Now you want to pretend it's not an attempt at pedantry? I'm not sure why you WANT to be an asshole, but either disagree with me TECHNICALLY (that is, point out how "x64" is NOT and never was a reference to Alpha, and show evidence how "x64" somehow has always referred to amd64 outside of Windows-centric circles, and we can discuss that), or admit you're trying to be as wise-ass and don't be pedantic then get upset about me supposedly accusing you of being pedantic. In other words, what do you really think you're bringing to the discussion? If you don't like when people point out incorrectness, then just say so. There's a time and a place for making incorrect generalizations. Technical people shouldn't make incorrect generalizations when talking about technical things.
        kjs3 3y ago
        Your accusation of assholery, under the circumstances, is comical. Talk about 'isn't a good look'.