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According to StatCounter Firefox's market share of all browsers is 2.93% followed closely by Samsung Internet(?) 2.59% and Opera 2.26% I wouldn't call that "ju

According to StatCounter Firefox's market share of all browsers is 2.93% followed closely by Samsung Internet(?) 2.59% and Opera 2.26% I wouldn't call that "just fine". If not for Safari (18.84% market share) Google could just dictate what happens on the Internet, because Chrome-based browsers would be the de facto standard. The only reason sites still bother to support non-Chrome browsers is the fact that people on iOS monetise REALLY well compared to other segments.

sixstringtheory 3y ago
> people on iOS monetise REALLY well compared to other segments And therein lies the motivation to "open up" Apple's ecosystem, people just can't stand looking at all those dollar signs without being able to get their hands on them any way possible. "So Apple just gets exclusive access to their users' money?!?" Well, they are the ones that built and maintain the ecosystem. Everyone else just wants to get in there and extract wealth like slash-and-burn rainforest developers or strip-miners.
- theshrike79 3y ago
  The "problem" is that Apple gets most of their money from hardware sales, they don't need to be able to uniquely identify their users to make huge bank. Thus they go privacy first in things just because they can. Like randomising IDs used to identify players across apps and services. You should've seen the tears marketing shed when that change happened.
  - illiac786 3y ago
    your assumption is that their hardware sales is not dependent on their ecosystem. I'd argue otherwise.
    - theshrike79 3y ago
      They are complementary of course, one could not exist without the other. But the competition (Google) is by all measurements an ad company that does software and hardware on the side, they cannot go the privacy route. Ads require tracking and tracking implies privacy issues.
jeroenhd 3y ago
While I agree that Firefox probably is nowhere close to Chrome in terms of market share, StatCounter isn't a great source of information here. StatCounter works through trackers, which are blocked by default on common Firefox installs. Sites work well in practically every browser because we're not living in 2005 anymore. Some missing APIs are broken, but how often do you really need WebSerial on your phone.

sixstringtheory 3y ago

> people on iOS monetise REALLY well compared to other segments And therein lies the motivation to "open up" Apple's ecosystem, people just can't stand looking at all those dollar signs without being able to get their hands on them any way possible. "So Apple just gets exclusive access to their users' money?!?" Well, they are the ones that built and maintain the ecosystem. Everyone else just wants to get in there and extract wealth like slash-and-burn rainforest developers or strip-miners.

theshrike79 3y ago
The "problem" is that Apple gets most of their money from hardware sales, they don't need to be able to uniquely identify their users to make huge bank. Thus they go privacy first in things just because they can. Like randomising IDs used to identify players across apps and services. You should've seen the tears marketing shed when that change happened.
- illiac786 3y ago
  your assumption is that their hardware sales is not dependent on their ecosystem. I'd argue otherwise.
  - theshrike79 3y ago
    They are complementary of course, one could not exist without the other. But the competition (Google) is by all measurements an ad company that does software and hardware on the side, they cannot go the privacy route. Ads require tracking and tracking implies privacy issues.

jeroenhd 3y ago

While I agree that Firefox probably is nowhere close to Chrome in terms of market share, StatCounter isn't a great source of information here. StatCounter works through trackers, which are blocked by default on common Firefox installs. Sites work well in practically every browser because we're not living in 2005 anymore. Some missing APIs are broken, but how often do you really need WebSerial on your phone.