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Yeah. I’d love to use clickhouse but yandex ties to the russian government makes me not want to.

• cpursley 3y ago
  Isn't it all open-source?
  • Dah00n 3y ago
    Some projects have refused code from developers because they are Russian or Chinese. Just because it is open source doesn't mean it is unbiased, free from politics, and without racism.
    • deleted 3y ago
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    • slt2021 3y ago
      some projects racially discriminate developers to avoid possible bias, politics, and racism? lolz
      • londons_explore 3y ago
        They would argue they are discriminating based on nationality not race. I can't see that argument working in a court of law...
        • neoromantique 3y ago
          >I can't see that argument working in a court of law... Don't US(or any other country for that matter) laws discriminate based on nationality all the time?
          • londons_explore 3y ago
            Generally only the government is allowed to discriminate based on nationality (ie. for immigration), but private companies cannot.
      • lam0x86 3y ago
        Guys, congratulations, you have become stars. I posted your dialogue on one of the Russian resources, and it was read by 117 thousand people. https://pikabu.ru/story/yandeks_opublikoval_iskhodnyie_kodyi_svoey_sistemyi_vizualizatsii_dannyikh_10684487 https://pikabu.ru/story/yandeks_opublikoval_iskhodnyie_kodyi...
• Silasdev 3y ago
  Yes, that is really a shame, although it's been fully open sourced. Yandex is aware of how the geopolitical situation is hurting them and are therefore building a new company called Double.Cloud, based in Europe, to work around the negative public opinion on Yandex, and thereby continue being able to sell Clickhouse cloud services.
• Eumenes 3y ago
  Its open source, who care what longitude and latitude the steward of the project is physically based in ... copy the code and make your own thing up
• kmac_ 3y ago
  Not only you. The company that I work for delivers software to government agencies. Dependencies like libraries or stack parts that are Russian or Chinese are simply banned. Even Harbor was rejected (and probably should be, as they provide a bunch of their own built Docker images, so you never know what your stack runs). I know "but it's open source" etc., and somebody may feel offended, but that's reality.
• mahoro 3y ago
  ClickHouse is a separate company registered in US and some part of it is owned by US-based venture funds.
• zX41ZdbW 3y ago
  ClickHouse was open-sourced in 2016 and moved to an independent company in 2021, with no ties remaining with Russia or Yandex. Read more: https://clickhouse.com/blog/we-stand-with-ukraine/ https://clickhouse.com/blog/we-stand-with-ukraine/
  • efxhoy 3y ago
    Oh wow that was news to me, thanks!
• macinjosh 3y ago
  Need to borrow a tin foil hat?
  • efxhoy 3y ago
    No need for that. I didn’t know Clickhouse was now disconnected from the Russian government.
  • freilanzer 3y ago
    For not wanting to be involved with the russian government? Wow, what a conspiracy theory!
• Silver_Johnes 3y ago
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