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Update: simscitizen has confirmed below that 1Password 7 still works in Sonoma. This will be the first macOS upgrade I won’t be doing for a while. I’d like to

Update: simscitizen has confirmed below that 1Password 7 still works in Sonoma. This will be the first macOS upgrade I won’t be doing for a while. I’d like to try it out, but I need to figure out how to migrate off of 1Password 7 (standalone) first or to make sure it still works with Sonoma. (Edit: I'm expecting that 1Password 7 will break with the new OS and make me convert to their subscription product.)

TrueGeek 3y ago
Does this not work well with 1Password?
- CharlesW 3y ago
  I've been using 1Password on the Sonoma public betas and have not had any problems.
dmd 3y ago
Why does this upgrade require migrating off 1Password?
- iamdamian 3y ago
  Updated to clarify. My expectation is that 1Password 7 won’t work on Sonoma. In my experience, AgileBits requires an upgrade for new versions of macOS. IIUC, 1Password 7 is also the last version that you can buy outright rather than paying for by subscription.
  - dmd 3y ago
    Thanks, that makes much more sense.
  - dpcx 3y ago
    I've never had a problem using 1Password 7 on updated versions of OSX. I'm in the same boat, and am still using 1Password 7 on Ventura after having upgraded through multiple OSs.
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    - bustruck 3y ago
      Well then do not update to Sonoma. Otherwise your boat will sink.
  - dkonofalski 3y ago
    I reluctantly upgraded to the subscription for 1Pass after the last OS update but I'm glad I did. The features that the 1Pass team has added since then as well as the fact that the subscription includes apps for all their platforms has already paid itself off in my eyes.
    - iamdamian 3y ago
      I hear what you're saying, but I'm not planning to ever move to a subscription model for storing my passwords.
      - dkonofalski 3y ago
        As long as you're comfortable self-hosting and admining, that shouldn't be a problem.
        iamdamian 3y ago
        It's funny because this really shouldn't be required (and isn't with 1Password standalone). But yes, I will eventually move over to BitWarden.
        dkonofalski 3y ago
        Yes, but 1Password standalone is missing many of the features of the subscription service that would be impossible to implement without it.
        iamdamian 3y ago
        That’s fair, but many people (myself included) don’t need those.
        bombcar 3y ago
        What features are those? I was forced off standalone when they broke using dropbox as a sync backend, but it's really just a fancy keychain at this point ...
  - simscitizen 3y ago
    1Password 7 works fine for me on Sonoma.
    - iamdamian 3y ago
      Thanks! Updated, and sorry for the false alarm. (But I have been burned in the past.)
      - simscitizen 3y ago
        Hm I just checked again. I appear to be using: - 1Password 7 desktop app - 1Password 7 Safari extension, which seems to work fine (or at least the same way it always worked) - The latest Chrome extension, which I believe does everything in the browser So I don't know how well 1Password 7 works with Chrome.
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  - FooBarWidget 3y ago
    I was also reluctant to upgrade to 1Password 8, mostly out of principle. I didn't want to pay for a subscription. But after having reconsidered my disaster recovery procedure, I swallowed the bitter pill after all. The problem is that I need to be able to recover my passwords when 1) my house was on fire AND 2) I left my phone behind during the evacuation. My 1Password db was stored on Dropbox. But my Dropbox password is in 1Password. Furthermore Dropbox sometimes requires 2-factor auth via email... and my Gmail password is also in 1Password. And Google is quite a bit more serious about 2FA than Dropbox. So even if I write down my Dropbox and Gmail password on paper and store them at my parents' home, I still can't login to Gmail easily because I have lost my phone. This can be solved by writing down even more stuff on paper. Or by storing a USB stick of the 1Password db at my parents' home (but now the stick should be encrypted, where do you store the key?). The point is: the rabbit hole goes deep, and you have to keep all that stuff updated. Plus my parents will have access to all my data. Not that I don't trust them, but what happens if someone breaks into their house? All this can be much simplified by just getting a 1Password subscription. I store my 1Password secret key (not master password) at my parents' home. They can't do anything with just the secret key. I memorized my master password. All 2FA recovery codes are in 1Password. This way everything can be recovered without the risk that my parents or a burglar at their house can access my passwords. I think this simplicity in disaster recovery is worth the subscription price.
philistine 3y ago
Which features lacking from the passwords system in Sonoma keeps you in 1Password?
- data-ottawa 3y ago
  Cross platform support (with Android) I should add I'm quite impressed Apple implemented import/export. It's not something I expected them to officially support.

TrueGeek 3y ago

Does this not work well with 1Password?

CharlesW 3y ago
I've been using 1Password on the Sonoma public betas and have not had any problems.

dmd 3y ago

Why does this upgrade require migrating off 1Password?

iamdamian 3y ago
Updated to clarify. My expectation is that 1Password 7 won’t work on Sonoma. In my experience, AgileBits requires an upgrade for new versions of macOS. IIUC, 1Password 7 is also the last version that you can buy outright rather than paying for by subscription.
- dmd 3y ago
  Thanks, that makes much more sense.
- dpcx 3y ago
  I've never had a problem using 1Password 7 on updated versions of OSX. I'm in the same boat, and am still using 1Password 7 on Ventura after having upgraded through multiple OSs.
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  - bustruck 3y ago
    Well then do not update to Sonoma. Otherwise your boat will sink.
- dkonofalski 3y ago
  I reluctantly upgraded to the subscription for 1Pass after the last OS update but I'm glad I did. The features that the 1Pass team has added since then as well as the fact that the subscription includes apps for all their platforms has already paid itself off in my eyes.
  - iamdamian 3y ago
    I hear what you're saying, but I'm not planning to ever move to a subscription model for storing my passwords.
    - dkonofalski 3y ago
      As long as you're comfortable self-hosting and admining, that shouldn't be a problem.
      - iamdamian 3y ago
        It's funny because this really shouldn't be required (and isn't with 1Password standalone). But yes, I will eventually move over to BitWarden.
        dkonofalski 3y ago
        Yes, but 1Password standalone is missing many of the features of the subscription service that would be impossible to implement without it.
        iamdamian 3y ago
        That’s fair, but many people (myself included) don’t need those.
        bombcar 3y ago
        What features are those? I was forced off standalone when they broke using dropbox as a sync backend, but it's really just a fancy keychain at this point ...
- simscitizen 3y ago
  1Password 7 works fine for me on Sonoma.
  - iamdamian 3y ago
    Thanks! Updated, and sorry for the false alarm. (But I have been burned in the past.)
    - simscitizen 3y ago
      Hm I just checked again. I appear to be using: - 1Password 7 desktop app - 1Password 7 Safari extension, which seems to work fine (or at least the same way it always worked) - The latest Chrome extension, which I believe does everything in the browser So I don't know how well 1Password 7 works with Chrome.
- deleted 3y ago
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- FooBarWidget 3y ago
  I was also reluctant to upgrade to 1Password 8, mostly out of principle. I didn't want to pay for a subscription. But after having reconsidered my disaster recovery procedure, I swallowed the bitter pill after all. The problem is that I need to be able to recover my passwords when 1) my house was on fire AND 2) I left my phone behind during the evacuation. My 1Password db was stored on Dropbox. But my Dropbox password is in 1Password. Furthermore Dropbox sometimes requires 2-factor auth via email... and my Gmail password is also in 1Password. And Google is quite a bit more serious about 2FA than Dropbox. So even if I write down my Dropbox and Gmail password on paper and store them at my parents' home, I still can't login to Gmail easily because I have lost my phone. This can be solved by writing down even more stuff on paper. Or by storing a USB stick of the 1Password db at my parents' home (but now the stick should be encrypted, where do you store the key?). The point is: the rabbit hole goes deep, and you have to keep all that stuff updated. Plus my parents will have access to all my data. Not that I don't trust them, but what happens if someone breaks into their house? All this can be much simplified by just getting a 1Password subscription. I store my 1Password secret key (not master password) at my parents' home. They can't do anything with just the secret key. I memorized my master password. All 2FA recovery codes are in 1Password. This way everything can be recovered without the risk that my parents or a burglar at their house can access my passwords. I think this simplicity in disaster recovery is worth the subscription price.

philistine 3y ago

Which features lacking from the passwords system in Sonoma keeps you in 1Password?

data-ottawa 3y ago
Cross platform support (with Android) I should add I'm quite impressed Apple implemented import/export. It's not something I expected them to officially support.