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> or who won't pay $20/month for the best homework tool? That much isn't necessary, GPT4 api costs $0.03-$0.06 for what's more than an essay of text. It's aff

> or who won't pay $20/month for the best homework tool? That much isn't necessary, GPT4 api costs $0.03-$0.06 for what's more than an essay of text. It's affordable and accessible to anyone with a credit card. Ethically this is more fair than having to pay for over-priced textbooks.

diogenes4 3y ago
llama is free and is trivial to install. Chatgpt doesn't offer good enough answers to pay for.
- nomel 3y ago
  > and is trivial to install The average person/studen can't install a llama 2 model (70 billion parameter) that can compete with ChatGPT-4 (the paid version), considering most students have notebooks, and lack top tier GPUs. Most would have to go to a "free" cloud providers. ChatGPT-3.5 is also free, and compares favorably against the lower parameter llama 2 models. But, llama 1, lower parameter/heavily quantized llama 2, and ChatGPT-3.5, are not practically comparable to ChatGPT-4, for most tasks [1]. I haven't found a use for those, in this sort of context, except for increasing my blood pressure, with the time wasted being my justification for paying $.70/day. [1] https://www.promptengineering.org/how-does-llama-2-compare-to-gpt-and-other-ai-language-models/#:~:text=Llama%202%20demonstrates%20impressive%20accuracy,helpfulness%2036%25%20of%20the%20time https://www.promptengineering.org/how-does-llama-2-compare-t....
- m348e912 3y ago
  >>llama is free and is trivial to install. Chatgpt doesn't offer good enough answers to pay for. It may be free, and easy enough to install. But to get it working, well I still have been unable to figure it out.
- whimsicalism 3y ago
  Not only is it not trivial to install, it is nowhere even remotely close to GPT4.
  - diogenes4 3y ago
    Nonsense, for most tasks even 7B parameters is enough to replace chatgpt for most tasks. Arguably 7B is even overblown. The goal is not "human-like" but "profitable"
    - whimsicalism 3y ago
      I have used llama and llama2 extensively and the suggestion that 7b can do the tasks described in this article is laughable.
noodlenotes 3y ago
If students are learning how to do API calls to get homework help, I consider that a win.

diogenes4 3y ago

llama is free and is trivial to install. Chatgpt doesn't offer good enough answers to pay for.

nomel 3y ago
> and is trivial to install The average person/studen can't install a llama 2 model (70 billion parameter) that can compete with ChatGPT-4 (the paid version), considering most students have notebooks, and lack top tier GPUs. Most would have to go to a "free" cloud providers. ChatGPT-3.5 is also free, and compares favorably against the lower parameter llama 2 models. But, llama 1, lower parameter/heavily quantized llama 2, and ChatGPT-3.5, are not practically comparable to ChatGPT-4, for most tasks [1]. I haven't found a use for those, in this sort of context, except for increasing my blood pressure, with the time wasted being my justification for paying $.70/day. [1] https://www.promptengineering.org/how-does-llama-2-compare-to-gpt-and-other-ai-language-models/#:~:text=Llama%202%20demonstrates%20impressive%20accuracy,helpfulness%2036%25%20of%20the%20time https://www.promptengineering.org/how-does-llama-2-compare-t....
m348e912 3y ago
>>llama is free and is trivial to install. Chatgpt doesn't offer good enough answers to pay for. It may be free, and easy enough to install. But to get it working, well I still have been unable to figure it out.
whimsicalism 3y ago
Not only is it not trivial to install, it is nowhere even remotely close to GPT4.
- diogenes4 3y ago
  Nonsense, for most tasks even 7B parameters is enough to replace chatgpt for most tasks. Arguably 7B is even overblown. The goal is not "human-like" but "profitable"
  - whimsicalism 3y ago
    I have used llama and llama2 extensively and the suggestion that 7b can do the tasks described in this article is laughable.

noodlenotes 3y ago

If students are learning how to do API calls to get homework help, I consider that a win.