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Why did the mega providers so desperately want net neutrality to die? Why did so many lobbyists work to kill it? "I really don't get what all the fuss is about

Why did the mega providers so desperately want net neutrality to die? Why did so many lobbyists work to kill it? "I really don't get what all the fuss is about." This is a bit like the Y2K bug. There was a huge amount of noise and fear-mongering, and millions of developers spent an enormous amount of time fixing code and preparing systems. Y2K came and suddenly everyone is sure it was all just drama for nothing. What was the fuss about? The massive amount of "scare tactics" made it a mainstream conversation. The images of tiered internet were spread far and wide and it put everyone on alert. We can't A:B universes, but I suspect that if net neutrality was quietly axed and no one noticed or cared, we would absolutely have had services very much like the worst-case images imagined.

pitaj 3y ago
Why did the mega streamers so desperately want NN to survive? Because the mega streamers like Netflix, Youtube, and Amazon would benefit.
snickerbockers 3y ago
>Why did the mega providers so desperately want net neutrality to die? Why did so many lobbyists work to kill it? because they want more leverage in their negotiations with netflix, amazon, google, spotify etc. That's all it boils down to, how much one major corporation has to pay another major corporation. There's a reason why they're only pushing for neutrality on the ISPs, if they were actually concerned about large corporations abusing their control over critical online infrastructure they'd be pushing to regulate other classes of "service providers" like google, amazon, cloudflare, etc.
- rockemsockem 3y ago
  Sounds like a great idea to me. Compute neutrality, storage neutrality, etc. Bits are bits, don't look any deeper!
- feoren 3y ago
  > if they were actually concerned about large corporations abusing their control over critical online infrastructure they'd be pushing to regulate other classes of "service providers" like google, amazon, cloudflare, etc. Many of the people who are pushing for net neutrality are also pushing for this. It's such an easy strawman counterpoint to just say "If people really cared about educating children, why are they only pushing for better schools? They should also be pushing for better in-home care and childhood nutrition!" ... um, they are?
  - snickerbockers 3y ago
    You might be and if so then I'm glad you are, but in my post above I was specifically referring to all the large silicon valley corporations pushing for NN. As for the legislation in the OP, they're not trying to accomplish that and TBH I really doubt the democrats[1] even want it to go further than the ISPs because they've been the beneficiaries of policies at companies like AWS that have deplatformed right-wing organizations[2]. [1] by which i mean the democrats that actually wield institutional authority in the american government, not every DNC party-member in general [2] not that i agree with the organizations that are being deplatformed but there is a principle at stake.

pitaj 3y ago

Why did the mega streamers so desperately want NN to survive? Because the mega streamers like Netflix, Youtube, and Amazon would benefit.

snickerbockers 3y ago

>Why did the mega providers so desperately want net neutrality to die? Why did so many lobbyists work to kill it? because they want more leverage in their negotiations with netflix, amazon, google, spotify etc. That's all it boils down to, how much one major corporation has to pay another major corporation. There's a reason why they're only pushing for neutrality on the ISPs, if they were actually concerned about large corporations abusing their control over critical online infrastructure they'd be pushing to regulate other classes of "service providers" like google, amazon, cloudflare, etc.

rockemsockem 3y ago
Sounds like a great idea to me. Compute neutrality, storage neutrality, etc. Bits are bits, don't look any deeper!
feoren 3y ago
> if they were actually concerned about large corporations abusing their control over critical online infrastructure they'd be pushing to regulate other classes of "service providers" like google, amazon, cloudflare, etc. Many of the people who are pushing for net neutrality are also pushing for this. It's such an easy strawman counterpoint to just say "If people really cared about educating children, why are they only pushing for better schools? They should also be pushing for better in-home care and childhood nutrition!" ... um, they are?
- snickerbockers 3y ago
  You might be and if so then I'm glad you are, but in my post above I was specifically referring to all the large silicon valley corporations pushing for NN. As for the legislation in the OP, they're not trying to accomplish that and TBH I really doubt the democrats[1] even want it to go further than the ISPs because they've been the beneficiaries of policies at companies like AWS that have deplatformed right-wing organizations[2]. [1] by which i mean the democrats that actually wield institutional authority in the american government, not every DNC party-member in general [2] not that i agree with the organizations that are being deplatformed but there is a principle at stake.