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Oh well that makes it okay/s. It's really comforting that Members of Parliament are that intellectually bankrupt.

1over137 3y ago
Do you expect each MP to individually vet the guests that other MPs have invited to the house? The fault here lies in the pathetic vetting done by the MP that invited him (the Speaker no less). And he'll likely resign or be fired shortly.
- starburst 3y ago
  They did introduce him as fighting against the Russian in WWII... It's easy to put all the blame on a single scapegoat, this is the results of a lot of incompetent people. Shameful moment.
  - mantas 3y ago
    And that division did fight against Russians. It's a shame westerners love to paint everything with a broad brush and don't look into details during WW2 in territories between Nazis and Soviets.
    - mardifoufs 3y ago
      Who else fought against Russians in WW2? Did they think the guy is Finnish? Do you actually believe the parliament of a first world country with all the staff and process that it has did not know about it? Why did Trudeau call it Russian propaganda when confronted about it, even if we assume that he magically didn't know anything about the guest?
      - mantas 3y ago
        Poland? Resistance in Baltic states and Ukraine?
        mardifoufs 3y ago
        I guess, but resistance in Ukraine and the Baltic states was mostly post war.
        mantas 3y ago
        The post-war resistance had close ties to local nazi-aligned units though. Both to get guns/ammo and pool together the interested people.
- boeingUH60 3y ago
  I don't even think he should resign or be fired...a public apology of "I didn't know, and I'm sorry for that" should suffice. The problem is perpetually outraged people on the internet who can never forgive a mistake...they're a barbaric mob going around looking for who to let their anger on...if only they had better things to do. Do people think public officials are all-knowing and incapable of making mistakes?
  - 1over137 3y ago
    If it were any random MP, perhaps. But he's the Speaker, and that role requires he has moral authority and the confidence of the House. Will be interesting to see if the House decides to vote him out.
    - 1over137 3y ago
      ...and, he's out.
  - cmrdporcupine 3y ago
    Indeed the tribal mob politics has gotten completely out of hand here. The only upside here is all the parties in parliament applauded the guy, so there's limited possibility for it becoming a "F*ck Trudeau" crowd issue. Their own tribe were right there, applauding the same guy.
  - jbay808 3y ago
    No, but if a Canadian engineer put their stamp on work that was this sloppy, an apology wouldn't suffice. They'd be suspended at least, or likely even lose their license permanently. Even if the work was prepared by their subordinates and just handed to them to sign off on it. Why should the Speaker of the House be held to a lower standard of diligence, especially when their actions have international geopolitical consequences?
- phone8675309 3y ago
  > Do you expect each MP to individually vet the guests that other MPs have invited to the house? They have cell phones, don't they? Maybe do a quick search before you give a standing ovation to a Nazi war criminal, _especially_ if you hear "fought against the Russians in WWII". If that doesn't set off more red flags than Red Square during an October Revolution Parade then maybe the MP is just too stupid to be in Parliament.

Do you expect each MP to individually vet the guests that other MPs have invited to the house? The fault here lies in the pathetic vetting done by the MP that invited him (the Speaker no less). And he'll likely resign or be fired shortly.

starburst 3y ago
They did introduce him as fighting against the Russian in WWII... It's easy to put all the blame on a single scapegoat, this is the results of a lot of incompetent people. Shameful moment.
- mantas 3y ago
  And that division did fight against Russians. It's a shame westerners love to paint everything with a broad brush and don't look into details during WW2 in territories between Nazis and Soviets.
  - mardifoufs 3y ago
    Who else fought against Russians in WW2? Did they think the guy is Finnish? Do you actually believe the parliament of a first world country with all the staff and process that it has did not know about it? Why did Trudeau call it Russian propaganda when confronted about it, even if we assume that he magically didn't know anything about the guest?
    - mantas 3y ago
      Poland? Resistance in Baltic states and Ukraine?
      - mardifoufs 3y ago
        I guess, but resistance in Ukraine and the Baltic states was mostly post war.
        mantas 3y ago
        The post-war resistance had close ties to local nazi-aligned units though. Both to get guns/ammo and pool together the interested people.
boeingUH60 3y ago
I don't even think he should resign or be fired...a public apology of "I didn't know, and I'm sorry for that" should suffice. The problem is perpetually outraged people on the internet who can never forgive a mistake...they're a barbaric mob going around looking for who to let their anger on...if only they had better things to do. Do people think public officials are all-knowing and incapable of making mistakes?
- 1over137 3y ago
  If it were any random MP, perhaps. But he's the Speaker, and that role requires he has moral authority and the confidence of the House. Will be interesting to see if the House decides to vote him out.
  - 1over137 3y ago
    ...and, he's out.
- cmrdporcupine 3y ago
  Indeed the tribal mob politics has gotten completely out of hand here. The only upside here is all the parties in parliament applauded the guy, so there's limited possibility for it becoming a "F*ck Trudeau" crowd issue. Their own tribe were right there, applauding the same guy.
- jbay808 3y ago
  No, but if a Canadian engineer put their stamp on work that was this sloppy, an apology wouldn't suffice. They'd be suspended at least, or likely even lose their license permanently. Even if the work was prepared by their subordinates and just handed to them to sign off on it. Why should the Speaker of the House be held to a lower standard of diligence, especially when their actions have international geopolitical consequences?
phone8675309 3y ago
> Do you expect each MP to individually vet the guests that other MPs have invited to the house? They have cell phones, don't they? Maybe do a quick search before you give a standing ovation to a Nazi war criminal, _especially_ if you hear "fought against the Russians in WWII". If that doesn't set off more red flags than Red Square during an October Revolution Parade then maybe the MP is just too stupid to be in Parliament.