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I wonder if cynicism has won. It seems to me that those that rule this world are unjust tyrants. And most of simply don’t give a shit. I would bet well over hal

I wonder if cynicism has won. It seems to me that those that rule this world are unjust tyrants. And most of simply don’t give a shit. I would bet well over half of the info-sec should happily work for NSO. I would bet they wouldn’t care one bit even if they knew the exact names of the dead Palestinians/dissidents left in the wake of their work.

rewmie 3y ago
> I wonder if cynicism has won. It seems to me that those that rule this world are unjust tyrants. And most of simply don’t give a shit. I think your take is not well thought through. Spain is an independent nation, just like Israel. Spain has absolutely no jurisdiction over Israeli citizens or companies, and vice versa. If Spain and Israel haven't signed any agreement to cooperate in this subject, all Spain can do is ask nicely without expecting any response. Being independent or legally bound to reply to a foreign government's requests is not tyranny.
- bjourne 3y ago
  Both Spain and Israel are members of INTERPOL so they have indeed signed legally binding cooperation agreements.
  - flanked-evergl 3y ago
    Could you cite the part of the agreement that Israel is not complying with?
    - kergonath 3y ago
      The agreement is here: https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/working_arrangement_establishing_cooperative_relations_between_the_law_enforcement_authorities_of_israel_and_the_european_union.pdf https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/... The document is quite long so I am not going to cite all of it, but the modes of cooperation are there (including meetings, requests and exchange of information). It does mention explicitly computer crimes as area where parties ought to cooperate.
hnthrowaway0315 3y ago
Those who rule walk in a different region that we sheep do not have knowledge of.
FpUser 3y ago
>"I wonder if cynicism has won" Did not have to win. It was always in a driver's seat.
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rewmie 3y ago

> I wonder if cynicism has won. It seems to me that those that rule this world are unjust tyrants. And most of simply don’t give a shit. I think your take is not well thought through. Spain is an independent nation, just like Israel. Spain has absolutely no jurisdiction over Israeli citizens or companies, and vice versa. If Spain and Israel haven't signed any agreement to cooperate in this subject, all Spain can do is ask nicely without expecting any response. Being independent or legally bound to reply to a foreign government's requests is not tyranny.

bjourne 3y ago
Both Spain and Israel are members of INTERPOL so they have indeed signed legally binding cooperation agreements.
- flanked-evergl 3y ago
  Could you cite the part of the agreement that Israel is not complying with?
  - kergonath 3y ago
    The agreement is here: https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/working_arrangement_establishing_cooperative_relations_between_the_law_enforcement_authorities_of_israel_and_the_european_union.pdf https://www.europol.europa.eu/sites/default/files/documents/... The document is quite long so I am not going to cite all of it, but the modes of cooperation are there (including meetings, requests and exchange of information). It does mention explicitly computer crimes as area where parties ought to cooperate.

hnthrowaway0315 3y ago

Those who rule walk in a different region that we sheep do not have knowledge of.

FpUser 3y ago

>"I wonder if cynicism has won" Did not have to win. It was always in a driver's seat.

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