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It really seems unnecessary at this point. Now that we have satellite based internet and 4G/5G are legit competitors to regular wire based ISPs it just seems th

It really seems unnecessary at this point. Now that we have satellite based internet and 4G/5G are legit competitors to regular wire based ISPs it just seems that the market has solved this by itself. Sure, Comcast _could_ still start doing prioritization. But honestly I’d be a lot more worried about how Google/Meta/Microsoft are using your data for GenAI.

WarOnPrivacy 3y ago
> It really seems unnecessary at this point. Now that we have satellite based internet and 4G/5G are legit competitors to regular wire based ISPs None of those things compete with wireline, on either performance or price. Satellite internet is 2x-10x more expensive and requires expensive equipment. It has significant lag and greatly reduced upload. 5G speeds exist in small, limited zones. Cellular internet in general is slower, comes with tiny to small data caps, is more expensive, has more lag and reduced upload. Here's what meaningful competition looks like. Next month I'll be able to choose from several fiber ISPs. Backstory: We currently have one cable provider. Following the recent broadband funding, my neighborhood was just trenched for fiber. It's an open infrastructure and any ISP that wants to sell service to us - can. This is how DSL used to work back in the late 90s-early aughts, until ISP lobbyists paid for enough elections to get those mandates unwound.
- _chu1 3y ago
  I actually get badass 5G speeds in the middle of nowhere rural Alabama with T-Mobile, the only issue is it being a CGNAT preventing me from playing most PS3 games online.
  - thomastjeffery 3y ago
    If you're lucky enough to live near an updated and uncongested tower, then yeah. The same thing happened for my parents in rural Utah, just with FTTH instead. Unfortunately for them, they are overcharged enough that it's probably worth it at this point to switch to 5G.
mywittyname 3y ago
It's your responsibility as a citizen to be able to multi-task, because there's always going to be a more important issue to worry about.
dd36 3y ago
It seems unnecessary thanks to states that passed net neutrality laws.
- thallium205 3y ago
  So I should be thanking those states for Starlink?
  - dd36 3y ago
    Huh?

WarOnPrivacy 3y ago

> It really seems unnecessary at this point. Now that we have satellite based internet and 4G/5G are legit competitors to regular wire based ISPs None of those things compete with wireline, on either performance or price. Satellite internet is 2x-10x more expensive and requires expensive equipment. It has significant lag and greatly reduced upload. 5G speeds exist in small, limited zones. Cellular internet in general is slower, comes with tiny to small data caps, is more expensive, has more lag and reduced upload. Here's what meaningful competition looks like. Next month I'll be able to choose from several fiber ISPs. Backstory: We currently have one cable provider. Following the recent broadband funding, my neighborhood was just trenched for fiber. It's an open infrastructure and any ISP that wants to sell service to us - can. This is how DSL used to work back in the late 90s-early aughts, until ISP lobbyists paid for enough elections to get those mandates unwound.

_chu1 3y ago
I actually get badass 5G speeds in the middle of nowhere rural Alabama with T-Mobile, the only issue is it being a CGNAT preventing me from playing most PS3 games online.
- thomastjeffery 3y ago
  If you're lucky enough to live near an updated and uncongested tower, then yeah. The same thing happened for my parents in rural Utah, just with FTTH instead. Unfortunately for them, they are overcharged enough that it's probably worth it at this point to switch to 5G.

mywittyname 3y ago

It's your responsibility as a citizen to be able to multi-task, because there's always going to be a more important issue to worry about.

dd36 3y ago

It seems unnecessary thanks to states that passed net neutrality laws.

thallium205 3y ago
So I should be thanking those states for Starlink?
- dd36 3y ago
  Huh?