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Interesting to see that perfect grammar gives you penalties nowadays.

JetSetWilly 3y ago
Need to improve the chatgpt prompt in canonical's case. "Include some personalised examples such as *paste author example". Don't have perfect grammar - allow the occasional mistake but not too prominently."
extasia 3y ago
I suppose it's a bimodal distribution: very high effort and very low effort will both have near-perfect grammar, albeit for different reasons. Since the low effort applications dominate in volume, the discriminator learns perfect grammar to be a negative signal. Law of unintended consequences I guess.
benhoyt 3y ago
It's not the "perfect grammar" that gets penalized (though ChatGPT grammar isn't really stellar). It's the part where the writing contains "little or nothing from the candidate's experience".
pell 3y ago
At my job I have to write a lot of internal documentation and teaching material for teams to learn from. Since ChatGPT I've changed my writing style slightly because it often could be perceived as written by AI. It is comical that I'm now thinking twice about using certain phrases because they might mirror ChatGPT's writing characteristics. I am now even including different paragraph lengths because everyone is familiar with the way ChatGPT divides content.
- Narciss 3y ago
  That is fascinating, isn't it? That we're tailoring our writing as a response to how an AI writes things.
sdflhasjd 3y ago
It's not the grammar that's giving you penalties though, it's all the chaff that comes with using AI that you don't really want. Another issue with using AI is that you didn't write it, you're going to struggle to clarify any grandiose claims during an interview. I've come accross only a couple of these CVs before and I have to question what these candidates are expecting to happen. If you're going to write your own bullshit in you CV at least you can (try) to bullshit your way through the interview as well. If you're getting an AI to bullshit for you, you're going to be clueless in an interview.
mrkeen 3y ago
One candidate could read: > they might have perfect grammar, but they’re incredibly boring, and they contain little or nothing from the candidate’s experience. and walk away with the impression that "perfect grammar gives you penalties". Another candidate might have interpreted it differently. Guess which candidate will get hired.

Need to improve the chatgpt prompt in canonical's case. "Include some personalised examples such as *paste author example". Don't have perfect grammar - allow the occasional mistake but not too prominently."

extasia 3y ago

I suppose it's a bimodal distribution: very high effort and very low effort will both have near-perfect grammar, albeit for different reasons. Since the low effort applications dominate in volume, the discriminator learns perfect grammar to be a negative signal. Law of unintended consequences I guess.

benhoyt 3y ago

It's not the "perfect grammar" that gets penalized (though ChatGPT grammar isn't really stellar). It's the part where the writing contains "little or nothing from the candidate's experience".

pell 3y ago

At my job I have to write a lot of internal documentation and teaching material for teams to learn from. Since ChatGPT I've changed my writing style slightly because it often could be perceived as written by AI. It is comical that I'm now thinking twice about using certain phrases because they might mirror ChatGPT's writing characteristics. I am now even including different paragraph lengths because everyone is familiar with the way ChatGPT divides content.

Narciss 3y ago
That is fascinating, isn't it? That we're tailoring our writing as a response to how an AI writes things.

sdflhasjd 3y ago

It's not the grammar that's giving you penalties though, it's all the chaff that comes with using AI that you don't really want. Another issue with using AI is that you didn't write it, you're going to struggle to clarify any grandiose claims during an interview. I've come accross only a couple of these CVs before and I have to question what these candidates are expecting to happen. If you're going to write your own bullshit in you CV at least you can (try) to bullshit your way through the interview as well. If you're getting an AI to bullshit for you, you're going to be clueless in an interview.

mrkeen 3y ago

One candidate could read: > they might have perfect grammar, but they’re incredibly boring, and they contain little or nothing from the candidate’s experience. and walk away with the impression that "perfect grammar gives you penalties". Another candidate might have interpreted it differently. Guess which candidate will get hired.