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It all boils down to energy and exposure to current trends. Older people tend to hang on to the past, so they are less "innovative" as per the current trends.

It all boils down to energy and exposure to current trends. Older people tend to hang on to the past, so they are less "innovative" as per the current trends. For eg: For the love of God, I can never understand TikTok and why it is famous. There are a slew of new emojis which I don't understand. Sometimes, I feel that these are important to understand while coming up with ideas to stay relevant.

hutzlibu 3y ago
"Sometimes, I feel that these are important to understand while coming up with ideas to stay relevant." I think it is important to understand, but I don't think you should learn to like it.
worthless-trash 3y ago
Much like evolution, the individual picks and chooses things which provide an advantage, i imagine that in most mature cases there is very little value in tiktok mating dances.
Jensson 3y ago
Tiktok is not just age related, tiktok is more popular among women, most communities you typically visit are probably majority men given that you are here. That makes a big difference for vote based social media, here you see male coded topics bubble up, on tiktok you see female coded topics bubble up.
- meowtimemania 3y ago
  TikTok’s algorithm personalizes its recommendations pretty quickly. Most the stuff I see on it is probably more appealing to men
  - Jensson 3y ago
    But still many men don't feel it is for them, so there is something missing there. Not understanding tiktok is therefore not just related to age, its also that tiktok is not interesting for a large part of men in general.
Juliate 3y ago
Also to intent. As you get older, you need to focus your energy and your intentions. And it may very well depend on the context then that innovation is or is not the important/urgent thing. Reciprocally, youth can be highly innovative because it’s more/still full of energy and discovery and randomness (or intentlessness), which favor unusual/new approaches.
doctor_eval 3y ago
> Older people tend to hang on to the past Maybe I’m not yet old enough to be like this but I honestly don’t think it’s the case. Instead - I think about how whatever I do in the next ten years is it. This is my last productive decade. I can’t risk wasting my time. I need to work on low risk projects with short payoff times. I’ve got half a dozen products and projects that I could launch, some of which I think could really make a difference… but I’m going to take a job in an industry I like and get a steady income, instead. There is enormous risk in innovation and that was great for the first ¾ of my working life - not so great for the last ¼. My wife and kids don’t want to eat ramen and live in share houses for 2 years while I hustle and grind until I get PMF or die trying.
- aleph_minus_one 3y ago
  > Instead - I think about how whatever I do in the next ten years is it. This is my last productive decade. > I can’t risk wasting my time. I need to work on low risk projects with short payoff times. Perhaps I am too young, but I rather imagine myself to be completely different when I become old: the older I get, the more risk-affine I'll become since if something goes insanely wrong, I will have less years in which I have to bear the bad consequences. To the present day, this describes my life quite well: the older I got, the more risk-affine I became.
  - doctor_eval 3y ago
    To be clear I'm specifically talking about income earning risks, rather than say physical risks. In those terms, if you're young and you do something high risk, and you lose all your money (or just spend 5 years not making money), you still have plenty of time to recover and make enough money to be comfortable when you're older. But, by definition, that's not true when you're older.
    - aleph_minus_one 3y ago
      > In those terms, if you're young and you do something high risk, and you lose all your money (or just spend 5 years not making money), you still have plenty of time to recover and make enough money to be comfortable when you're older. The counterargument to this was exactly a point of my reply: if you are not able to recover, there exist less years in which you have to live poorly when you are older. A little bit macabre, but true.
jackyard86 3y ago
I too can never get today's trends like Tiktok, Instagram, emojis and others. I'm 17 year old...
- oblio 3y ago
  There's a reason you're on HN, I expect many people here to be outliers/outcasts for their generations, be that 67-year-old or 17-year-olds.
rickydroll 3y ago
> Older people tend to hang on to the past uh, 67 yes old and adhd. the past is so yesterday and frequently not remembered unless traumatic. Innovation and new learning are weekly events. F.E. I now use chatgpt to generate most of my code then I tweek/debug it to usefulness. clock is ticking and I'm not done yet

hutzlibu 3y ago

"Sometimes, I feel that these are important to understand while coming up with ideas to stay relevant." I think it is important to understand, but I don't think you should learn to like it.

worthless-trash 3y ago

Much like evolution, the individual picks and chooses things which provide an advantage, i imagine that in most mature cases there is very little value in tiktok mating dances.

Jensson 3y ago

Tiktok is not just age related, tiktok is more popular among women, most communities you typically visit are probably majority men given that you are here. That makes a big difference for vote based social media, here you see male coded topics bubble up, on tiktok you see female coded topics bubble up.

meowtimemania 3y ago
TikTok’s algorithm personalizes its recommendations pretty quickly. Most the stuff I see on it is probably more appealing to men
- Jensson 3y ago
  But still many men don't feel it is for them, so there is something missing there. Not understanding tiktok is therefore not just related to age, its also that tiktok is not interesting for a large part of men in general.

Juliate 3y ago

Also to intent. As you get older, you need to focus your energy and your intentions. And it may very well depend on the context then that innovation is or is not the important/urgent thing. Reciprocally, youth can be highly innovative because it’s more/still full of energy and discovery and randomness (or intentlessness), which favor unusual/new approaches.

doctor_eval 3y ago

> Older people tend to hang on to the past Maybe I’m not yet old enough to be like this but I honestly don’t think it’s the case. Instead - I think about how whatever I do in the next ten years is it. This is my last productive decade. I can’t risk wasting my time. I need to work on low risk projects with short payoff times. I’ve got half a dozen products and projects that I could launch, some of which I think could really make a difference… but I’m going to take a job in an industry I like and get a steady income, instead. There is enormous risk in innovation and that was great for the first ¾ of my working life - not so great for the last ¼. My wife and kids don’t want to eat ramen and live in share houses for 2 years while I hustle and grind until I get PMF or die trying.

aleph_minus_one 3y ago
> Instead - I think about how whatever I do in the next ten years is it. This is my last productive decade. > I can’t risk wasting my time. I need to work on low risk projects with short payoff times. Perhaps I am too young, but I rather imagine myself to be completely different when I become old: the older I get, the more risk-affine I'll become since if something goes insanely wrong, I will have less years in which I have to bear the bad consequences. To the present day, this describes my life quite well: the older I got, the more risk-affine I became.
- doctor_eval 3y ago
  To be clear I'm specifically talking about income earning risks, rather than say physical risks. In those terms, if you're young and you do something high risk, and you lose all your money (or just spend 5 years not making money), you still have plenty of time to recover and make enough money to be comfortable when you're older. But, by definition, that's not true when you're older.
  - aleph_minus_one 3y ago
    > In those terms, if you're young and you do something high risk, and you lose all your money (or just spend 5 years not making money), you still have plenty of time to recover and make enough money to be comfortable when you're older. The counterargument to this was exactly a point of my reply: if you are not able to recover, there exist less years in which you have to live poorly when you are older. A little bit macabre, but true.

jackyard86 3y ago

I too can never get today's trends like Tiktok, Instagram, emojis and others. I'm 17 year old...

oblio 3y ago
There's a reason you're on HN, I expect many people here to be outliers/outcasts for their generations, be that 67-year-old or 17-year-olds.

rickydroll 3y ago

> Older people tend to hang on to the past uh, 67 yes old and adhd. the past is so yesterday and frequently not remembered unless traumatic. Innovation and new learning are weekly events. F.E. I now use chatgpt to generate most of my code then I tweek/debug it to usefulness. clock is ticking and I'm not done yet