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There's no fundamental reason why electricity prices be rising. Solar and wind have been dropping at nonlinear rates for a decade,and likely will for another de
by AtlasBarfed 3y ago
There's no fundamental reason why electricity prices be rising. Solar and wind have been dropping at nonlinear rates for a decade,and likely will for another decade. They are already the cheapest power sources by LCOE than even natural gas turbine. I don't live in the UK, but in the US the electrical cost of recharging an electric car was far less than fueling a gas car even before the current rise in gas prices. Long term even moreso.
Replacement of an EV battery will likely get cheaper and cheaper and cheaper. If you read anything about the sodium ion and LFP technologies that are coming to market and the sulfur techs that will likely eventually replace them, the battery replacement will get cheaper and cheaper. Meanwhile I recently replaced my ICE transmission for $6000.
As for long range trips, the recharge times are dropping. Battery distances are increasing so people with long range requirements will probably be able to get 500 mi or longer battery capacities. For some vehicles that want to go even further than that, it will probably be some sort of generator, additional battery trailers or other mechanisms. This will likely be the soul use case that internal combustion engines have an advantage on. The other thing that is pointed out by EV users is that by charging at home you save more time on a daily basis not having to go to the gas station. So overall, unless you drive daily very long distances in the end you'll have more time.
Every modern car is filled to the brim of computers and Carrington events will likely wipe out all of them as well. However, what would you rather have a vehicle that could charge off of potentially solar cells you have on your roof in a disaster? Or would you rather have an IC vehicle that is useless without fuel, and the fuel supply logistics have collapsed in the Carrington event?
You sound like a shill for British Petroleum. Don't worry, you'll be able to buy an ICE and refuel on ICE, likely for several decades if you so choose.
- bartvk 3y ago> You sound like a shill for British Petroleum Please read the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- oblio 3y agoI have mixed feelings about that rule. It's from 15 years ago, I think, and HN wasn't as astroturfed as it is now. There are literally internal Slack channel with automation that monitors HN and alerts marketing teams to react to keywords being mentioned (companies, products). For example: https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/marketing/developer-relations/developer-evangelism/hacker-news/ https://about.gitlab.com/handbook/marketing/developer-relati... And GitLab is just very open, plenty of companies do the same and frankly many are actually scummy about it, GitLab is actually playing by the books. It seems like a very naive rule these days.
- vixen99 3y agoCheaper at what cost? Two wrongs don't make a it right so putting aside issues with fossil fuel, let's not ignore an elephant in the room in terms of the human rights issues involved in the electric vehicle supply chain? This is no minor matter. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/electric-car-batteries-geography/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/interactive/2023/electr...
- KingOfCoders 3y agoWay behind reality. In 10 years batteries will mostly run without rare earth metals.
- blkhawk 3y agoOil is completely conflict free and has never caused any human rights issues ever. /s Sorry but nobody talks about that elephant in the room in terms of the human rights issues involved in the gasoline vehicle supply chain. Plus there are big overlaps between the supply chains of electric and fossil fuel car. This whole argument is inane.
- rcxdude 3y ago> Every modern car is filled to the brim of computers and Carrington events will likely wipe out all of them as well This isn't particularly likely. Large-scale structures like power grids are much more susceptable to issues from such an event: smaller electronics are unlikely to be damaged.