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I think his irritation is aimed at rank amateurs spouting nonsense because they saw Space Odyssey once and projecting all kinds of irrational fears ripped strai

I think his irritation is aimed at rank amateurs spouting nonsense because they saw Space Odyssey once and projecting all kinds of irrational fears ripped straight from popular science fiction on this space. People predicting doom scenarios with just about any technical revolution is nothing new. Luddites and fear mongering are about as old as technology is. There are a lot of people out there with an opinion on AI right now. Carmack at least has done his homework and he's identified some solvable technical problems. And he's solving those. That's how technology moves forward. He's a bit on the spectrum, so yes, he doesn't have a lot of patience for people spouting nonsense in a hysterical hand wavy way. Part of AI safety is the likes of China and a few other countries not getting there first and using it against us. They aren't going to slow down because some activists with ethical concerns in the Bay area. Unlike some of the irrational fears, that one is very real because they already have a lot of people working on this and they own a lot of chip factories. So our choices are to wait for history to happen or make it happen.

entropyneur 3y ago
I agree with the latter part of your argument and wouldn't have posted my comment if that was what he said. (Although it doesn't mean we shouldn't be thinking about the risks of AGI, but rather both about how to mitigate them and how to get there before China.) The thing is, however, that regardless of how much nonsense might be out there, well though-out arguments for AI risks do exist. Dismissing them together with the nonsense has to be either a conscious choice or utter ignorance. Either of which would be very concerning for someone aspiring to develop such a high-impact technology (and quite possibly being capable of doing it).
- GoblinSlayer 3y ago
  That said, how Americans imagine themselves a perfect AGI? How it should think? What it should believe? Should it be short term optimized? There was a scene in Robocop where he got installed a few hundred rules to obey and began to glitch.
Gud 3y ago
The Luddites were replaced by the machines which is why they were protesting. We(us humans) will not use A.I. to compete against each other. A.I. will be a competing top species.
- flandish 3y ago
  AGI will be a tool of the owning classes to extract as much productivity and profit from the working class as possible. In addition to your concerns.
  - Gud 3y ago
    Yes, this is the intermediate 5-15 years.

entropyneur 3y ago

I agree with the latter part of your argument and wouldn't have posted my comment if that was what he said. (Although it doesn't mean we shouldn't be thinking about the risks of AGI, but rather both about how to mitigate them and how to get there before China.) The thing is, however, that regardless of how much nonsense might be out there, well though-out arguments for AI risks do exist. Dismissing them together with the nonsense has to be either a conscious choice or utter ignorance. Either of which would be very concerning for someone aspiring to develop such a high-impact technology (and quite possibly being capable of doing it).

GoblinSlayer 3y ago
That said, how Americans imagine themselves a perfect AGI? How it should think? What it should believe? Should it be short term optimized? There was a scene in Robocop where he got installed a few hundred rules to obey and began to glitch.

Gud 3y ago

The Luddites were replaced by the machines which is why they were protesting. We(us humans) will not use A.I. to compete against each other. A.I. will be a competing top species.

flandish 3y ago
AGI will be a tool of the owning classes to extract as much productivity and profit from the working class as possible. In addition to your concerns.
- Gud 3y ago
  Yes, this is the intermediate 5-15 years.