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Just because something is done in the name of "safety" doesn't make it unimpeachable good. In fact, it's often quite the opposite. Ask anyone who's had to get o

Just because something is done in the name of "safety" doesn't make it unimpeachable good. In fact, it's often quite the opposite. Ask anyone who's had to get on a plane at a US airport in the last 20 years.

bcrosby95 3y ago
Do you mean the seatbelts in the car I drove to the airport at? Or the elevator inspections on the elevator I took from the 4th floor of the parking garage? Maybe the lack of smoking in the airport, or on the airplane? The regular aircraft inspections? Or the regulations on pilot hours? Laws on alcohol consumption for them? How about the emergency exits? Or the oxygen masks. Are these examples that I came up with off the top of my head quite the opposite of unimpeachable good?
- thfuran 3y ago
  No, they’re a bad faith reply, since surely you knew they were referring to the the airport security checkpoint and some of the asinine luggage restrictions imposed there.
- JimDabell 3y ago
  You seem to have misread the parent comment as saying that anything done in the name of safety is bad. They did not say that.
- glenra 3y ago
  Oxygen masks definitely aren't unimpeachable good. Passenger oxygen mask systems are virtually never needed but have caused multiple fires that destroyed planes and killed people. They are an expensive complication without which plane travel would be better - the plane would be cheaper to build, there'd be more room and weight available for passengers or luggage, and we'd all save time on safety briefings from not having to hear instructions on how to do a thing that you certainly won't need to do. The pilots need oxygen masks as a backup while they quickly descend to a safer altitude. Unless you're flying over the Himalayas and can't drop that low, the passengers should be fine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_oxygen_system#Incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_oxygen_system#Incide...
  - actionfromafar 3y ago
    It would seem they have protected against brain damage though?

bcrosby95 3y ago

Do you mean the seatbelts in the car I drove to the airport at? Or the elevator inspections on the elevator I took from the 4th floor of the parking garage? Maybe the lack of smoking in the airport, or on the airplane? The regular aircraft inspections? Or the regulations on pilot hours? Laws on alcohol consumption for them? How about the emergency exits? Or the oxygen masks. Are these examples that I came up with off the top of my head quite the opposite of unimpeachable good?

thfuran 3y ago
No, they’re a bad faith reply, since surely you knew they were referring to the the airport security checkpoint and some of the asinine luggage restrictions imposed there.
JimDabell 3y ago
You seem to have misread the parent comment as saying that anything done in the name of safety is bad. They did not say that.
glenra 3y ago
Oxygen masks definitely aren't unimpeachable good. Passenger oxygen mask systems are virtually never needed but have caused multiple fires that destroyed planes and killed people. They are an expensive complication without which plane travel would be better - the plane would be cheaper to build, there'd be more room and weight available for passengers or luggage, and we'd all save time on safety briefings from not having to hear instructions on how to do a thing that you certainly won't need to do. The pilots need oxygen masks as a backup while they quickly descend to a safer altitude. Unless you're flying over the Himalayas and can't drop that low, the passengers should be fine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_oxygen_system#Incidents https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_oxygen_system#Incide...
- actionfromafar 3y ago
  It would seem they have protected against brain damage though?