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"Starting August 1, these features will be licensed for commercial use, and there is no charge for the first $50K in application revenues. The use of premium fe

by 9999 15y ago

"Starting August 1, these features will be licensed for commercial use, and there is no charge for the first $50K in application revenues. The use of premium features within Adobe AIR, including for mobile applications for iOS and Android, will be royalty free." This is absolutely appalling. I'm actually kind of shocked, although I really shouldn't be at this point. Wow. What utter fools. Hey adobe shareholders, fire your BoD and sack your incompetent CEO in your next round of layoffs. Edit: Sorry for the vitriol, but this kind of gouging is just inexcusable. Especially considering what you're really getting for the money. Udk is already going to run 25% off gross revenue, toss in another 30% for facebook's cut and you're down 55%. Now adobe wants 9% of your remaining revenue? For what, exactly? Opening a few measly APIs to allow the player to actually access the engine that's really doing the heavy lifting? The udk royalty makes sense, it's getting you access to a world class set of dev tools and a fantastic engine. What the fuck is adobe's 9% actually for? The privilege of running your code in a mediocre vm that doesn't even have proper gamepad apis? Fuck.

quink 15y ago
> Now adobe wants 9% of your remaining revenue? For what, exactly? You forgot Adobe Flash Professional CS5.5 for $699. At 3 licenses at $50k in revenue, that'll put it quite a bit above 10%.
- 9999 15y ago
  That's the hilarious part about this. You probably won't need CS5.5, or any adobe product other than alchemy. You will compile straight from unity or udk or whoever else they drag onto their sinking ship. As a guy that writes a lot of actionscript, I can tell you that adobe stopped selling the best tools for making swfs long, long ago. Jobs was right about that one, adobe needs to return to making tools and selling them (although I still have some hope that he was wrong about the runtime ). The greedy imbecile at Adobe that looked at udk's licensing terms and thought they could pull similar royalties off of a cross compiler should be tarred, feathered, and booted out of the organization.

by 9999 15y ago

quink 15y ago

> Now adobe wants 9% of your remaining revenue? For what, exactly? You forgot Adobe Flash Professional CS5.5 for $699. At 3 licenses at $50k in revenue, that'll put it quite a bit above 10%.

9999 15y ago
That's the hilarious part about this. You probably won't need CS5.5, or any adobe product other than alchemy. You will compile straight from unity or udk or whoever else they drag onto their sinking ship. As a guy that writes a lot of actionscript, I can tell you that adobe stopped selling the best tools for making swfs long, long ago. Jobs was right about that one, adobe needs to return to making tools and selling them (although I still have some hope that he was wrong about the runtime ). The greedy imbecile at Adobe that looked at udk's licensing terms and thought they could pull similar royalties off of a cross compiler should be tarred, feathered, and booted out of the organization.