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This is one of the reasons that suicide by tylenol - which is reportedly very drawn out and extremely painful - is so common in the US compared to other countri

This is one of the reasons that suicide by tylenol - which is reportedly very drawn out and extremely painful - is so common in the US compared to other countries. It's available in much greater concentration and quantity at retail than the rest of the world. In the UK, bottles have about 30 tablets. In the US, finding 1000 count (!) bottles is easy: https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-extra-strength-acetaminophen-pain-relief-500-mg-caplets-1000-ct-prodid-273823 https://www.cvs.com/shop/cvs-health-extra-strength-acetamino... https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/health/us-uk-pain-sgmd/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2013/02/08/health/us-uk-pain-sgmd/index.... On top of which, the maximum daily dose listed by many generics is not considered safe: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3585765/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3585765/

ascorbic 3y ago
And in the UK it's going to be in a blister pack not a bottle, which is a lot more work. You can't even buy more than two packs at a time, so you'd need to go from store to store.
- housemusicfan 3y ago
  A 16 pack of extra-strength paracetamol, which is more than enough to kill you in one sitting, is 65p at Tesco. Do you really think someone intent on killing himself will look at a blister pack and think, "You know, if this was in a bottle I'd go through with it, but this doesn't seem worth it, it's way too much work to take me own life"?
  - dagw 3y ago
    Many people who commit (or attempt) suicide aren't really intent on killing themselves. There is ample evidence than putting even relatively minor barriers in the way, making it so that people have to slow down and really reflect on what they are doing is enough to stop some people in their tracks and make them reconsider what they are about to do.
  - lozenge 3y ago
    Suicide has a planned and an impulsive component. Both need to be present for an attempt to happen. It doesn't sound like you know much about suicide research? Preferring to substitute your own guesses on a well researched topic.
    - housemusicfan 3y ago
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      - pests 3y ago
        I forgot you were the expert here.
pjc50 3y ago
The US doesn't bother controlling tylenol suicides because it's already awash with guns.
- mhb 3y ago
  Sure, but they're hard to swallow and have a metallic taste.
Brybry 3y ago
If I'm reading https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3585765/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3585765/ correctly then it says that the maximum listed dosage is safe but the FDA recommended lowering it with no supporting evidence. It claims the previous higher maximum was anecdotally established but later supported as safe by multiple studies and the reason for the article seems to be concern that the new lower maximums could cause confusion in patients and doctors.

ascorbic 3y ago

And in the UK it's going to be in a blister pack not a bottle, which is a lot more work. You can't even buy more than two packs at a time, so you'd need to go from store to store.

housemusicfan 3y ago
A 16 pack of extra-strength paracetamol, which is more than enough to kill you in one sitting, is 65p at Tesco. Do you really think someone intent on killing himself will look at a blister pack and think, "You know, if this was in a bottle I'd go through with it, but this doesn't seem worth it, it's way too much work to take me own life"?
- dagw 3y ago
  Many people who commit (or attempt) suicide aren't really intent on killing themselves. There is ample evidence than putting even relatively minor barriers in the way, making it so that people have to slow down and really reflect on what they are doing is enough to stop some people in their tracks and make them reconsider what they are about to do.
- lozenge 3y ago
  Suicide has a planned and an impulsive component. Both need to be present for an attempt to happen. It doesn't sound like you know much about suicide research? Preferring to substitute your own guesses on a well researched topic.
  - housemusicfan 3y ago
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    - pests 3y ago
      I forgot you were the expert here.

pjc50 3y ago

The US doesn't bother controlling tylenol suicides because it's already awash with guns.

mhb 3y ago
Sure, but they're hard to swallow and have a metallic taste.

Brybry 3y ago

If I'm reading https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3585765/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3585765/ correctly then it says that the maximum listed dosage is safe but the FDA recommended lowering it with no supporting evidence. It claims the previous higher maximum was anecdotally established but later supported as safe by multiple studies and the reason for the article seems to be concern that the new lower maximums could cause confusion in patients and doctors.