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I wonder if it was easier to work with Portugal because they own the Azores, a collection of islands pretty far out in the Atlantic and a convenient stopover be

I wonder if it was easier to work with Portugal because they own the Azores, a collection of islands pretty far out in the Atlantic and a convenient stopover before hitting the main continent.

petre 3y ago
The article doesn't mention anything about the Azores or Madeira.
vasco 3y ago
Azores is quite a bit south of this cable from what is shown in the picture.
- ciceryadam 3y ago
  Not really south, it's just a bit north: Ponta Delgada - Latitude: 37.7333 Longitude: -25.6667. Lisbon - Latitude 38.71667 Longitude -9.13333. It is the exclusive economic zones of Portugal that are in the path of the cable: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone_of_Portugal#/media/File%3APortugal_EEZ.PNG https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone_of_P...
- throw0101c 3y ago
  Doing a map of a flight from Sines, to Bermuda, to Charleston airports: * http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=LPSI-TXKF-KCHS http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=LPSI-TXKF-KCHS The (great circle) route is straight through the Azores. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great-circle_navigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great-circle_navigation Whomever made the map for the diagram just drew a straight line from Portugal to Bermuda, which works for a flat surface, but in the real world the world is round, so the shortest distance is often curved (as it appears on a 2D projection). However this site shows the cable travelling south of the Azores: * https://www.fiberatlantic.com/system/n5OE4 https://www.fiberatlantic.com/system/n5OE4
cfn 3y ago
It is a bummer, yes, we have fiber across all Azores' islands but latency to the US is high because we have to go through mainland Europe.
- newlineconflict 3y ago
  Curious, I'm someone mentioned me the Azores having direct connection to North America. And maybe it does but not for consumer connection.
  - cfn 3y ago
    We have fiber connecting all islands and one subsea cable connected to Portugal mainland. Maybe the US military have a hidden one connected to North America, but I doubt. If you give me a domain/IP that is in NA I will ping/trace it and post here the results if you like.
jghn 3y ago
I also would have expected the Azores to be involved. Mainland Portugal to Massachusetts via Azores seems like it'd be a shorter shot than Mainland Portugal to Bermuda to NC. Especially given how much further west NC is vs MA

I wonder if it was easier to work with Portugal because they own the Azores, a collection of islands pretty far out in the Atlantic and a convenient stopover before hitting the main continent.

petre 3y ago

The article doesn't mention anything about the Azores or Madeira.

vasco 3y ago

Azores is quite a bit south of this cable from what is shown in the picture.

ciceryadam 3y ago
Not really south, it's just a bit north: Ponta Delgada - Latitude: 37.7333 Longitude: -25.6667. Lisbon - Latitude 38.71667 Longitude -9.13333. It is the exclusive economic zones of Portugal that are in the path of the cable: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone_of_Portugal#/media/File%3APortugal_EEZ.PNG https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone_of_P...
throw0101c 3y ago
Doing a map of a flight from Sines, to Bermuda, to Charleston airports: * http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=LPSI-TXKF-KCHS http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=LPSI-TXKF-KCHS The (great circle) route is straight through the Azores. * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great-circle_navigation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great-circle_navigation Whomever made the map for the diagram just drew a straight line from Portugal to Bermuda, which works for a flat surface, but in the real world the world is round, so the shortest distance is often curved (as it appears on a 2D projection). However this site shows the cable travelling south of the Azores: * https://www.fiberatlantic.com/system/n5OE4 https://www.fiberatlantic.com/system/n5OE4

cfn 3y ago

It is a bummer, yes, we have fiber across all Azores' islands but latency to the US is high because we have to go through mainland Europe.

newlineconflict 3y ago
Curious, I'm someone mentioned me the Azores having direct connection to North America. And maybe it does but not for consumer connection.
- cfn 3y ago
  We have fiber connecting all islands and one subsea cable connected to Portugal mainland. Maybe the US military have a hidden one connected to North America, but I doubt. If you give me a domain/IP that is in NA I will ping/trace it and post here the results if you like.

jghn 3y ago

I also would have expected the Azores to be involved. Mainland Portugal to Massachusetts via Azores seems like it'd be a shorter shot than Mainland Portugal to Bermuda to NC. Especially given how much further west NC is vs MA