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“They haven’t got the skills to discuss things, they haven’t got the skills to disagree.” This article is about something new and different: People with differ

“They haven’t got the skills to discuss things, they haven’t got the skills to disagree.” This article is about something new and different: People with different views are shouted down on college campuses and cancelled on social media, so the young don't learn how to "agree to disagree" or any kind of speech and debate skills. This implies a lowered ability to think critically.

Zetobal 3y ago
No, it's the same just worded differently.
- labrador 3y ago
  True in the general sense of complaining about young people throughout history, but I'm more interested social media enforcing group think in ways never before possible. They don't need mature adults to censor them, they censor themselves.
- jauntywundrkind 3y ago
  Issuing broadscale complaints against the youth without being specific about how the gripes buttress the article feels like an example of not knowing how to argue. That's the core problem the article is talking about. Just doubling down and saying it's all the same again avoids creating any arguable contentions. It's a belief in symbols - asserts a known/believed Ballardian hyper-real - without establishing why these quotes support or back the article.
pk-protect-ai 3y ago
>> This implies a lowered ability to think critically. This does not necessarily imply a decreased ability to think critically. Instead, it suggests that they excel in mimicry. Having been immersed in the internet from a young age, they socialize extensively in this environment. They quickly learn that expressing unique or open opinions can lead to conflict. This realization often occurs at a particularly impressionable age. The pervasive culture of cancellation is not counterbalanced by lessons in rhetoric. Consequently, they learn to silence their opinions, keeping them private. They might believe that maintaining social connections will provide a sufficient reward as a trade off.
- labrador 3y ago
  I developed my critical thinking skills by reading authors I disagreed with and by debating people who had much different opinions than myself. I don't know how you would develop critical thinking skills without that. Care to give some examples?
  - pk-protect-ai 3y ago
    I believe the debating part does not actually help in developing critical thinking. Instead, it helps you to express your opinion and listen to others. This part focuses on distributing and adjusting information, rather than being a process of learning critical thinking. The debates that occur internally (comparing viewpoints with facts) or arguing with yourself (or an imaginary opponent) are not equivalent to communicating thoughts externally, especially if arguing could potentially harm your future. I doubt that I have to provide any examples on the argument and the constraint that you have set.

Zetobal 3y ago

No, it's the same just worded differently.

labrador 3y ago
True in the general sense of complaining about young people throughout history, but I'm more interested social media enforcing group think in ways never before possible. They don't need mature adults to censor them, they censor themselves.
jauntywundrkind 3y ago
Issuing broadscale complaints against the youth without being specific about how the gripes buttress the article feels like an example of not knowing how to argue. That's the core problem the article is talking about. Just doubling down and saying it's all the same again avoids creating any arguable contentions. It's a belief in symbols - asserts a known/believed Ballardian hyper-real - without establishing why these quotes support or back the article.

pk-protect-ai 3y ago

>> This implies a lowered ability to think critically. This does not necessarily imply a decreased ability to think critically. Instead, it suggests that they excel in mimicry. Having been immersed in the internet from a young age, they socialize extensively in this environment. They quickly learn that expressing unique or open opinions can lead to conflict. This realization often occurs at a particularly impressionable age. The pervasive culture of cancellation is not counterbalanced by lessons in rhetoric. Consequently, they learn to silence their opinions, keeping them private. They might believe that maintaining social connections will provide a sufficient reward as a trade off.

labrador 3y ago
I developed my critical thinking skills by reading authors I disagreed with and by debating people who had much different opinions than myself. I don't know how you would develop critical thinking skills without that. Care to give some examples?
- pk-protect-ai 3y ago
  I believe the debating part does not actually help in developing critical thinking. Instead, it helps you to express your opinion and listen to others. This part focuses on distributing and adjusting information, rather than being a process of learning critical thinking. The debates that occur internally (comparing viewpoints with facts) or arguing with yourself (or an imaginary opponent) are not equivalent to communicating thoughts externally, especially if arguing could potentially harm your future. I doubt that I have to provide any examples on the argument and the constraint that you have set.