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Nothing to do with tech industry bubble. I am shocked how little sympathy people have for e,g, teachers, who impact their kids every day, and have been consist

Nothing to do with tech industry bubble. I am shocked how little sympathy people have for e,g, teachers, who impact their kids every day, and have been consistently crapped on for decades on this continent. General public's overall sympathy to unions and/or truckers is limited. Unfortunately, most people's attitude is "I don't have that, so they shouldn't either!" or "My life is hard, theirs should be too!!!". It would be more productive and compassionate to say "I don't have what they're asking for either, maybe I should do something about that and we'll all get better", but sadly that's not how it tends to work :-<

mannerheim 3y ago
Maybe teachers would have more sympathy if they weren't lobbying to keep children in failing schools while sending their own children to private schools. https://katv.com/news/nation-world/chicago-teachers-union-leader-slammed-for-sending-son-to-private-school-hypocrisy-of-the-highest-order-stacy-davis-gates-school-choice-public-schools-illinois https://katv.com/news/nation-world/chicago-teachers-union-le...
g42gregory 3y ago
In California, teachers in public schools are stopping to assign the homework to students, certainly through 5th grade and, in some places, beyond. They a going along with de-tracking (removing advanced classes). Not to mention other practices. As parent, you basically have to find tutors, enroll kids into AoPS/Russian Math, etc… I, for one, stopped understanding what is it that these teachers actually do?
- ultrarunner 3y ago
  My parents are both public school teachers. "Classroom management" is the term that describes most of the job. My dad has inadvertently conflated the need for reopening schools during the pandemic with the need for childcare to keep the economy moving (though he quickly reversed course on the need to reopen schools when union talking points came down the pipe). Teachers have definitely been "crapped on" for a long time, but they fervently argue for the system from which the crap flows.
- jedberg 3y ago
  My wife was a teacher before we had kids. She left the profession for exactly the reasons you mention. She liked teaching children. She hated dealing with discipline and especially with needy parents who would not trust her when she said that their child wasn't any better than any other student. She hated the fact that they wouldn't let her teach advanced concepts to advanced kids, and that they got rid of tracking and classroom aides. When her job became more overhead than actually teaching, that's when she called it quits. Now she volunteers most of the day at school trying to help the teachers in any way she can to make their jobs easier.

mannerheim 3y ago

Maybe teachers would have more sympathy if they weren't lobbying to keep children in failing schools while sending their own children to private schools. https://katv.com/news/nation-world/chicago-teachers-union-leader-slammed-for-sending-son-to-private-school-hypocrisy-of-the-highest-order-stacy-davis-gates-school-choice-public-schools-illinois https://katv.com/news/nation-world/chicago-teachers-union-le...

g42gregory 3y ago

In California, teachers in public schools are stopping to assign the homework to students, certainly through 5th grade and, in some places, beyond. They a going along with de-tracking (removing advanced classes). Not to mention other practices. As parent, you basically have to find tutors, enroll kids into AoPS/Russian Math, etc… I, for one, stopped understanding what is it that these teachers actually do?

ultrarunner 3y ago
My parents are both public school teachers. "Classroom management" is the term that describes most of the job. My dad has inadvertently conflated the need for reopening schools during the pandemic with the need for childcare to keep the economy moving (though he quickly reversed course on the need to reopen schools when union talking points came down the pipe). Teachers have definitely been "crapped on" for a long time, but they fervently argue for the system from which the crap flows.
jedberg 3y ago
My wife was a teacher before we had kids. She left the profession for exactly the reasons you mention. She liked teaching children. She hated dealing with discipline and especially with needy parents who would not trust her when she said that their child wasn't any better than any other student. She hated the fact that they wouldn't let her teach advanced concepts to advanced kids, and that they got rid of tracking and classroom aides. When her job became more overhead than actually teaching, that's when she called it quits. Now she volunteers most of the day at school trying to help the teachers in any way she can to make their jobs easier.