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That’s not going to come to fruition, and no amount of dreamy socialist fanfiction’ing is going to make it so. People pay for value. Produce value for others, g

That’s not going to come to fruition, and no amount of dreamy socialist fanfiction’ing is going to make it so. People pay for value. Produce value for others, get paid. LLM’s are tools to make humans able to produce more value, and will not replace humans, although the job market will change, and hopefully utilize humans better. People, NOT machines, are the ultimate judgers of what is valuable and the ultimate producers of value. “no one should have to work to eat” is the most ridiculous gen Z meme going around lately. Like, technically yes, not eating would make you unhealthy and thus unable to contribute yourself, but we also don’t want the opposite of people just sitting home all depressed about being oppressed and not utilizing their gifts while living off mysteriously-produced (paid for or labored over by whom?) gourmet sushi. How about another common meme in response? “We live in a society.”

kortex 3y ago
> Produce value for others, get paid So if a human is unable to produce value, they don't get (food/education/heathcare/<resource>)? That seems to be the implication. We in developed countries already have some amount of "value risk hedging" (I'm loathe to say "socialism" here), we just disagree endlessly how much is the optimal amount. But we've determined that wards of the state, universal education, and some amount of food support for the poor is the absolute bare minimum for a developed society. > People, NOT machines, are the ultimate judgers of what is valuable and the ultimate producers of value. Uhhh we already have software which sifts through resumes to allow/reject candidates, before it gets to any kind of human judge, so we are already gating value assessments.
- pmarreck 3y ago
  > So if a human is unable to produce value, they don't get (food/education/heathcare/<resource>)? I would agree that some people are simply unable to help and need the help themselves and should get it. UBI or some other social safety net should be there for that.

kortex 3y ago

> Produce value for others, get paid So if a human is unable to produce value, they don't get (food/education/heathcare/<resource>)? That seems to be the implication. We in developed countries already have some amount of "value risk hedging" (I'm loathe to say "socialism" here), we just disagree endlessly how much is the optimal amount. But we've determined that wards of the state, universal education, and some amount of food support for the poor is the absolute bare minimum for a developed society. > People, NOT machines, are the ultimate judgers of what is valuable and the ultimate producers of value. Uhhh we already have software which sifts through resumes to allow/reject candidates, before it gets to any kind of human judge, so we are already gating value assessments.

pmarreck 3y ago
> So if a human is unable to produce value, they don't get (food/education/heathcare/<resource>)? I would agree that some people are simply unable to help and need the help themselves and should get it. UBI or some other social safety net should be there for that.