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Hard to run an open source enterprise company when Amazon's playbook is to take your shit for free and host it themselves.

azemetre 3y ago
Wouldn't using an AGPL license be better for this than just GPL?
- insanitybit 3y ago
  That would be a hilarious way to lose every customer over night.
  - tristan957 3y ago
    Why would customers leave you if your product was AGPL?
    - insanitybit 3y ago
      I think it's extremely common for companies to sit every engineer down during onboarding and say "never touch code with these licenses". Certainly in my experience it is.
      - tristan957 3y ago
        MongoDB was AGPL before moving to the SSPL. So this doesn't make sense.
    - withinboredom 3y ago
      Because people are stupid. Never underestimate stupidity. In all seriousness, it’s just that the AGPL considers network use to be distribution and thus entitled to the source[https://medium.com/swlh/understanding-the-agpl-the-most-misunderstood-license-86fd1fe91275 https://medium.com/swlh/understanding-the-agpl-the-most-misu...] This terrifies people for some reason. Basically because they want the freedom to modify open source projects and call it their own without giving back to the project that actually created it.
      - insanitybit 3y ago
        The stupid people are lawyers and they definitely seem to think they have a good reason.
        Zuiii 3y ago
        All stupid people think they are right. Give me one concrete AGPL case that justifies their aversion. Anyway, it's their loss.
        insanitybit 3y ago
        Is there an AGPL case that can be used to say "there's no risk" ?
        tristan957 3y ago
        MongoDB rose to fame on the back of the AGPL.
        insanitybit 3y ago
        I meant a legal case. That's what lawyers are going to want - not an absence of cases but one that has already happened. Honestly, go talk to your org's lawyer.
axus 3y ago
Red Hat had over a billion dollars in revenue last year and it's never stopped growing. Free Red Hat-compatible operating systems did not stop them from making a lot of money.

azemetre 3y ago

Wouldn't using an AGPL license be better for this than just GPL?

insanitybit 3y ago
That would be a hilarious way to lose every customer over night.
- tristan957 3y ago
  Why would customers leave you if your product was AGPL?
  - insanitybit 3y ago
    I think it's extremely common for companies to sit every engineer down during onboarding and say "never touch code with these licenses". Certainly in my experience it is.
    - tristan957 3y ago
      MongoDB was AGPL before moving to the SSPL. So this doesn't make sense.
  - withinboredom 3y ago
    Because people are stupid. Never underestimate stupidity. In all seriousness, it’s just that the AGPL considers network use to be distribution and thus entitled to the source[https://medium.com/swlh/understanding-the-agpl-the-most-misunderstood-license-86fd1fe91275 https://medium.com/swlh/understanding-the-agpl-the-most-misu...] This terrifies people for some reason. Basically because they want the freedom to modify open source projects and call it their own without giving back to the project that actually created it.
    - insanitybit 3y ago
      The stupid people are lawyers and they definitely seem to think they have a good reason.
      - Zuiii 3y ago
        All stupid people think they are right. Give me one concrete AGPL case that justifies their aversion. Anyway, it's their loss.
        insanitybit 3y ago
        Is there an AGPL case that can be used to say "there's no risk" ?
        tristan957 3y ago
        MongoDB rose to fame on the back of the AGPL.
        insanitybit 3y ago
        I meant a legal case. That's what lawyers are going to want - not an absence of cases but one that has already happened. Honestly, go talk to your org's lawyer.

axus 3y ago

Red Hat had over a billion dollars in revenue last year and it's never stopped growing. Free Red Hat-compatible operating systems did not stop them from making a lot of money.